SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #4

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  1. BeckyF

    BeckyF Well-Known Member

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    That is true. I’m sure many people do it. (Especially guys). I don’t see anything suspicious about the tire changing at this point. Jmo
     


  2. DeDee

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    It's my understanding that the truck passed Mr. Murdaugh's Mercedes. Then, the driver turned the truck around and drove to the location of the crime scene.

    I think two individuals were inside the truck but only the driver fired shots leaving the victim with a superficial or a surface wound on his head.

    Oddly enough, the flight to the hospital flew AM to another state, GA, or appx 7 miles less than traveling to Charleston.

    "Murdaugh, whose wife and son were shot to death in June in an as-yet unsolved killing, was traveling to Charleston Saturday afternoon when he had a flat tire, as CrimeOnline previously reported. While he was fixing the tire, a truck drove by, turned around, and someone inside shot him.

    The Hampton County Sheriff’s Office secured the scene, and emergency medical personnel arranged air transport to Memorial Health University Medical Center in Savannah, Georgia."

    Murdaugh Murders: Alex Murdaugh Recovering From ‘Superficial’ Wound to the Head; State Officials Investigate Shooting
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  3. DeDee

    DeDee Well-Known Member

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    I scrubbed in surgery for a neurosurgeon. The scalp is highly vascular.
    • Dense Connective tissue – connects the skin to the epicranial aponeurosis. It is richly vascularised and innervated.
      • The blood vessels within the layer are highly adherent to the connective tissue. This renders them unable to constrict fully if lacerated – and so the scalp can be a site of profuse bleeding.
    The Scalp - Layers - Innervation - Blood Supply - TeachMeAnatomy
     
  4. TruthIsStranger

    TruthIsStranger Well-Known Member

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    The heat, too! Middle of summer feel still.
     
  5. Colorado303

    Colorado303 Verified Insider Watts Case

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    I hope it was private and requested/paid for by Alex himself. I really do. Because dispatching a public air ambulance to transport a superficially injured patient is dangerous, irresponsible and counters basic emergency response procedures. Theory being a critically injured patient’s “golden hour” should never be squandered because scarce air resources were busy transporting some guy with a boo boo on his head.
     
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  6. DeDee

    DeDee Well-Known Member

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    Yes, his Mercedes Benz is seen thru the weeds. I noticed his front left tire is clearly on the road and angled toward the left. Does this indicate he stopped on the road, then backed off the road at a slight angle? Thereby, placing the flat tire off the road but not the left front tire. Regardless, it's a weird way to park a disabled Mercedes Benz by leaving the lt front area partially on the road unnecessarily by at least 8 - 12".
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  7. Luna20

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    They apparently don’t think the locals need to protect themselves from identifying the vehicle or personal characteristics (brunette, bald, tall, short, young, old, male, female) of a homicidal maniac(s)!
     
  8. Colorado303

    Colorado303 Verified Insider Watts Case

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    It’s plausible when the alleged incident occurred he had completed the tire change, already put the damaged tire/jack in the trunk and was attacked while walking back to the driver door.
     
  9. taylorss

    taylorss Well-Known Member

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    that’s what I’ve been saying since the Murdaugh double murdaugh story first broke!!
     
  10. stattlich1

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    I'm going to throw this out there because, well, I think it's key to a LE investigation of what happened.

    A vehicle going 10 mph travels 14.667 feet per second. So, for a half dozen spent cartridges to group rather closely, a shooter would have to be stationary....for the most part.

    Convert 10 Miles per Hour to Feet per Second

    "The semi-automatic rate is the assault rifle/semi-auto only version on rapid fire. It is the maximum rate that a weapon can fire with any degree of accuracy in semi-auto mode, usually 45-60 rpm."

    Rate of fire

    The rate of fire is found to vary from differing sources. However, if one takes the maximum noted here, then what you'd have is one bullet per second. Some sources say a professional could fire up to 3, or even 4 bullets per second.

    Of course, number of shooters, and speed of vehicle can dramatically change ones thinking on this matter.

    I also keep in mind that semi automatic handguns under normal shooting circumstances almost invariably discharge to the right. I've seen some throw spent cartridges up to 15 feet, others throw them 2 or three feet, and if a shooter is 'limp wristing' the firearm, or otherwise waving it around, the cartridge might just dribble out and fall straight down.

    It is the 'discharge to the right' piece that I'm focused on.

    In any event, this data gives food for thought pertaining to the grouped location of the alleged spent cartridge locations.

    So, one example could be, 2 shooters, going 10 mph. The second 2 shots would be about 15 feet away from the first two, and then, the next 2 shots would be nearly 30 feet away from the first two. That would be a spread of nearly 30 feet for 6 shots from a vehicle going 10 mph.
     
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  11. taylorss

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    Yeah … their own way of doing things clearly. interesting town
     
  12. taylorss

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    Hmmm…. well, head wounds tend to gush blood so maybe it looked way worse than it was… and maybe this is the best facility for a head injury regardless of severity…. etc there could be any number of reasons they went to Savannah.
    But I know I’m not the only one who immediately thought ‘wow a clever way to sneak out of jurisdiction!’ moo
     
  13. chaz

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  14. MissUnderstood

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    Hmmm, well, this has taken quite the turn!!!
     
  15. Midge Montana

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    As if there hadn’t already been enough material for a TV Miniseries, now this! Bananas…
     
  16. Snoopster

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    No. His tire was still flat. (based on images of his vehicle on social media)
     
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    With the Prosecutor recusing himself, finally last week, I thought there were some developments in the case then. Someone might have been feeling rattled.

    The fact this happened when/where it did is not random or a coincidence.


    JMO
     
  18. BrownRice

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    I wonder if the prosecutor received threats?
     
  19. Ann99

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    This is very good drone video.
    Note the position of the vehicle.
    Is the driver side back tire on the pavement?
    I dont think so.
    It could be on the pavement, but I don't see it that way.
    Would't pavement be preferable for changing a tire, using a jack?
    Maybe not if the ground is very hard.

    In addition,
    Saw on TV a brief quick news video of the scene, police, evidence people. Counted individual yellow evidence markers A thru J.

    There could have been more toward the driver side door but not visible.
    Depth perception was not good, they looked to be very near the left back side of the vehicle, on the road and a bit off to the back side near the grass.
    Also other yellow markers labeled 1 2 3.

    My Depth perception could be way off or it is deceptive due to angle of video, but it seemed as though the shell casings were very close to the car.
     
  20. Ann99

    Ann99 Well-Known Member

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    How flat? Flat like a pancake or just low on air, or very very low on air?
    Thanks!
     
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