SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #8

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  1. sds71

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  2. imstilla.grandma

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    Join us for a look at the latest developments in a murder case that has drawn international attention to the Lowcountry. It began with the killings of two members of the prominent Murdaugh family in June. Since then, there has been a second shooting, a trip to rehab and allegations of money missing from the family law firm. Watchdog and Public Service Reporter Stephen Hobbs and Public Service Editor Glenn Smith discuss the latest in the case and what might be next. Moderated by The Post and Courier Executive Editor Autumn Phillips.

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    Hampton Co. judge sets bond at $55K for man charged with trying to help Alex Murdaugh in suicide attempt
     
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  3. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Crime Addict

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    Isn't that the truth!!! He hired a man who obviously couldn't shoot and hit the broad side of a barn.
     
  4. Midwestmom2019

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    He missed the shot bc he wanted to miss the shot. If you’re that close and miss? You were not looking at your target. Really, he was trying to kill that pesky horse fly that had been buzzing around Alex’s head all morning.
     
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    A large majority of these stories are from the past though. But it was inevitable that we would come to this point: true crime in real time. I’m talking about the Murdaugh Murders in South Carolina. Every media outlet has been following this. PEOPLE.com has been posting about it nearly every day. So it’s not like it’s been avoidable, at least not in my feed. The details are increasingly bizarre, seemingly fictional but too f-cking real twists and turns are irresistible. A wealthy, powerful family, corruption and secrets, grudges and greed, and a string of unexplainable, suspicious deaths? I admit, I have two group chats going about this situation, I have a google alert set up for it, so I’m one of those assholes feeding this circus. Am I too weak to look away? Are you too weak to look away?

    And yet, as some have argued, without this attention, given the influence of the Murdaugh family in South Carolina, there may have been even more coverups, more sloppy investigation, more betrayal of justice – and the family members of Stephen Smith, Gloria Satterfield, and Mallory Beach would not have hope of finding answers about the loss of the loved ones if not for all this heat.
    https://www.laineygossip.com/journa...-carolina-with-podcast-murdaugh-murders/69383
     
  6. raja

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    So CES followed him to the spot that the shooting happened? I suppose he could have slashed AM's tire at AM's house with AM's knife. He could have followed him with the intent to murder him. He is a bad shot and was having an off day on drugs like yesterday and he misses. AM has to explain something to LE at the time. He takes a week to think about it and hears there may be video so the Suicide story was born. Better than trying to explain why he was shot by CES. He did not try to commit suicide IMHO...I don't believe the shooting has anything to do with suicide.
     
  7. raja

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    I agree that I am to weak to look away. This is in the top 3 threads I have followed. I'm addicted to audio books (and I mean 3 or more a week) and mysteries are one of my favorite. This case tops any fictional books I've read or listened to. I think everything that comes out has been twisted for so long that finding out the truth will never happen. We will only know what is feed to the public. JMHO
     
  8. sunshineray

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    With these lawyers anything is possible.
     
  9. imstilla.grandma

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    Neither do I. Did AM “confess” so the narrative was already in place for CES to follow the script? How many shots did CES fire that night? How many times did AM and CES speak afterwards but before the confession? I think AM was impulsively writing his starring role lines pulled from the Sadfishing playbook.
     
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    Murdaugh’s lawyers said he has been in drug rehab for about 10 days after his law firm fired him over missing money that could total millions of dollars.

    Murdaugh’s lawyers said he decided to kill himself the next day, but have someone else shoot him. Murdaugh gave Curtis Edward Smith a gun and they headed to lonely Old Salkehatchie Road. Smith fired one shot that only grazed Murdaugh’s head, a State Law Enforcement Division agent said in a sworn statement.
    Lawyer Says Murdaugh to Turn Himself in on Insurance Fraud

    Smith answered basic questions and signed forms, affirming that he understood the proceedings against hm. Alexander asked Smith if he'll apply for representation by a public defender."I'm probably going to go for one, yes," he responded.
    Bail set at $55,000 for man accused of attempting to stage Alex Murdaugh's suicide

    Curtis 'Eddie' Smith boasted to friends that cops 'wouldn't find anything' when they searched his home and appeared untroubled despite being told he was a suspect in the shooting of Alex Murdaugh, DailyMail.com can reveal.

    But, while neighbors expressed shock at this latest twist in the spiraling Murdaugh saga, one long-time acquaintance told DailyMail.com that Smith had been talking of his potential involvement in the crime when out in Walterboro last week.

    According to Henry Vandermark, who has known the man he described as 'straight-dealing' and 'friendly,' for more than a decade, Smith was blasé when he told him that cops had visited his Walterboro home last week and informed him that he was a suspect in the bizarre roadside shooting.

    He said: 'He told me, 'the police have been round and told me I'm a suspect [in the Alex Murdaugh shooting] and wanted to search my house.' 'I said, 'Go ahead, you won't find anything.'

    Despite Smith's admission, Vandermark said that he 'couldn't believe it' when he saw that his long-time acquaintance had been arrested Tuesday.

    In fact, investigators had been closing in on the man whom Murdaugh hired to shoot him while attorneys for Murdaugh were still publicly peddling the tale of a random roadside ambush even offering more 'facts' given by their client in a bid to shore up his story.

    He had rocked to and fro in his seat throughout the hearing and as he made to leave muttered: 'This is bogus. It's all bogus.' Asked by the judge if he had anything else to say he remained silent.
    Alex Murdaugh's 'hitman' boasted that cops 'wouldn't find anything' at his South Carolina home | Daily Mail Online
     
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  11. sunshineray

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    Amen Betty P! You got that right. Poor Gloria S. was just a paycheck to them. We'll tell you what happened, what to put on her death certificate and don't to an autopsy for the record.

    The Hampton County coroner who is asking questions now is only doing so, IMO, because the S. boy's lawyer is on the case and shed enough light.

    It makes you wonder where were the doctors who treat GS, where's their account of her injuries and death. She lingered for days, did she not? Is that all hidden behind HIPA? Might be the only accounting of GS's death.

    And two more things...No EMS or police sent to M house for her. So transported to the hospital by?? AM's lawyer has the nerve to say in that interview AM had nothing to do with GS's death. She died on his property, on his steps.
     
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    IIRC SLED said 7-10 casings were found
     
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    I don’t think he hired his backwoods cousin to kill him. I think he convinced him to stage a “shooting” to redirect the investigation and make it look like “someone” was after the Murdaughs. The scheme quickly fell apart and this is what they came up with. MOO
     
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    We still don't know what gun was used on Sept. 4 or where the gun went. That seems odd given all the admissions by the two defendants. JMO.
     
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    Very interesting. Dick says RMIII went and saw Alex and after returning home succumbed to his cancer a couple hours later.

    Just listened to it too. FWIW - Dick said of Moselle that it was AM’s home: “That’s where he slept every night with Maggie and Paul.”

    I’m not convinced that Dick actually knows where Maggie and Paul slept every night but wanted to note it.
     
  16. sunshineray

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    Good post! And remember SS's death came three years before GS's "trip and fall".
     
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    Still waiting to see who AM and his lawyers think murdered PM and MM. Are they going to accuse the Senior Murdaugh of hiring someone now that he is dead? He didn't want the family's secrets exposed from the audit or something like that?
     
  18. imstilla.grandma

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    Appreciate you. Thanks. That’s what I thought so I don’t understand this:

    Smith fired one shot that only grazed Murdaugh’s head, a State Law Enforcement Division agent said in a sworn statement.
    Lawyer Says Murdaugh to Turn Himself in on Insurance Fraud
     
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    Isn't a bond hearing the same thing as an arraignment?

    Judge is reading him his rights, including a right to an attorney's representation. Wasn't he already Mirandized when arrested?

    He appears at this hearing with no attorney to represent him and explain things to him!?

    Considering how he looked and acted for his drug charges bail bond (virtual hearing) and transport video, he still has no lawyer with him?

    What is going on!?
     
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