SC - Walter Scott, 50, fatally shot by North Charleston PD officer, 4 April 2015 - #1

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  1. SStarr33

    SStarr33 Inactive

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    The only way Slager could have been nicer to the guy is if he would have offered him some milk and cookies while he waited.
     
  2. Elley Mae

    Elley Mae The enemy is here. beware

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    It would be hours before his client learned that Scott had been fatally shot in the back by Slager as he ran down a nearby lot, out of view from the car.

    Peper said immediately after hearing the gunshots, Fulton began trying to call his mother and sister and sat in the car “in shock.”

    http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150415/PC16/150419622/1177

    The passenger was making/trying calls not Walter. jmo idk
     
  3. Tawny

    Tawny Bye

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    This whole last page is full of victim blaming.
     
  4. jaxibear

    jaxibear Active Member

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    I did some research, and there are some comments from people who were there on social media. The majority of them are supportive with one or two that were bothered.
     
  5. sloane7777

    sloane7777 Well-Known Member

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    how do we know what he said on the DL , we don't know ! he could have literally said Run or I'm gonna kill you, we were not there and the recordings don't pick up all audio esp if your hand is over the mic on a body cam, a dash cam to far to know for sure.
     
  6. tambo

    tambo Member

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    exactly, Why? because there are some people in this country that still think we are supposed to be all one color, all one religion etc....They will deny it but it is oh so very obvious in the actions and words of those people.
     
  7. tambo

    tambo Member

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    has anyone heard when the next court date is? Or when the grand jury meets
     
  8. rob

    rob Active Member

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    It's a classy place with classy clientele. They'll let it drop, but make sure it never happens again.
    There's a reason this is where they chose to do their 4 minute rant.
     
  9. dodie20

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    imo, only someone who was extremely detached from reality, would have a real problem with the demonstration. A little uncomfortable maybe, but good grief, there are more important things than a 'pleasant meal', going on in the world. I would have listened to every word and been proud to be an American where we can still do things like that. moo.
     
  10. EllieBee

    EllieBee Former Member

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    It reminds me of the Jodi Arias trial.

    I belonged to another forum where the case was being discussed and it shocked me how many people called the victim a "player" and a "hypocrite", etc. Like any of those things made it okay for her to brutally murder him?

    In this case not only are people victim blaming, but supposition is being stated as fact. I have yet to see MSM confirmation for any of these claims. A person just joining the conversation would think it was established fact that Mr. Scott assaulted Slager. And unless there is direct proof of that, there is only one victim and he is dead.
     
  11. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    Forgive me if this has already been discussed/answered. I'm not yet caught up with the thread.

    What do you believe is the 2nd cartridge? I see the one dragging behind Scott. I also see something moving backwards behind Slager. What is moving backwards away from Slager? The second cartridge or the actual taser? Because that second item moving behind and away from Slager is what he later went back to pick up and drop next to Scott's body.
     
  12. shadowraiths

    shadowraiths LISK Liaison, Verified Forensic Psychology Special Staff Member Moderator

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    If you look where the cartridge that ends up being dragged... just below and to the right that, appears to be another "black thing" that I think may be the first cartridge, in that it's the same shape/color.

    It seems to me like both cartridges show up on the ground, the one not dragged first, and then the one dragged by scott shows up just a little behind it, a little to the left, and closer to Slager. As for the item falling behind Slager, I am guessing that was the taser. Not sure, of course, it's just a guess.

    Since the video clarity is spotty, I started that video from just before both people appeared in the frame, and slowed it down to 10% speed.

    In watching that, it seems to me that the officer may have dropped the taser while trying to hold on to scott, and that the force of scott moving away may have dislodge the cartridge(s?), causing it(/them?) to tumble to the ground, while sending the taser off behind the officer.

    This is all a guess, of course. Since I'm not even remotely a video specialist.

    Clear as mud, now, eh?

    Eta ~ including link of video being discussed, just to save people time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTZfDcWeWTE
     
  13. Bayou Mistress

    Bayou Mistress Former Member

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    We should have never had that tea party in Boston.

    Slager shot a man in the back.
     
  14. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    There isn't one. Slager being tased by Scott is a fairy tale.
     
  15. shadowraiths

    shadowraiths LISK Liaison, Verified Forensic Psychology Special Staff Member Moderator

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    With regard to the struggle.

    In context of what we have on the video, it is quite clear contact was made between Scott and Officer Slager. Who first made the contact, is arguably moot. The point is, there was a struggle. And the officer appeared to be over-powered during at least part of that struggle. Moreover, he was unable to physically detain Scott. And once that occurred, all bets were off. He was unsurprisingly pumped, that is, his adrenaline had kicked in when contact was made. At which point, he is in the fight mode, as opposed to flight mode. That is, his behavior is arguably more visceral than cognitive. His stance, when he is taking aim, seems clearly singular. Focused.

    Does this make the shooting right? Of course not. Understandable? I would pose that, to some degree, it does.

    Eta ~ adding video of struggle for clarity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2dZkrwqHU
     
  16. Tawny

    Tawny Bye

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    I mean, I'm just gonna throw it out there again that he did pull into an auto parts store parking lot lol. Coulda fixed all a' these problems with one little comment "Go buy a tail light".

    You have to know you have a tail light out to begin with. Y'all need to get to arresting my husband for driving for who knows how long with a blown out brake light because no one ever pointed it out until I happened to watch him drive away one day. That is a COMMON issue with cars, and MOST people who do get pulled over for it get asked "were you aware you have a tail light out" and then they get a warning and everyone goes about their day.

    Why does a license or plates need to be run to be told you have a light out? Why does he need to go back to his squad car for ANYTHING?

    If we treated things like this how they should be treated, police pulling us over to inform us and help us to remedy the situation rather than treating it like some criminal act, then everyone would be happier.

    But then again, gotta get them tax dollars with those tickets. Nevermind that most in poor neighborhoods literally can't afford those traffic tickets. Which is why it circles back to why didn't Slager inform him and give him the opportunity to remedy the situation.

    I'm just going in circles now.
     
  17. Tawny

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    We're sitting here saying "follow laws" over and over but no one seems to be worried that Slager broke the first law, the most critical law, which is "don't kill unless your life is in imminent danger" which it wasn't. Was it a few minutes before? I dunno. I haven't seen proof of it. But it sure wasn't in imminent danger as Scott ran away, unarmed.

    So let's treat everyone equal, eh? If Scott "should've followed the laws" then the same applies to Slager, LE or not.
     
  18. tambo

    tambo Member

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    is murdering someone considered breaking the law? Like you said, *obey the law, If you can't live in a country with laws MOVE....I think we all know that scott did not do anything to deserve being shot in the back...
     
  19. MyBelle

    MyBelle Well-Known Member

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    True Southern politeness and civility in play in the restaurant but those folks won't be polite if their places of business are attacked.

    JMO
     
  20. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    Thank you. Using this post as a springboard. Between the youtube link you added and the following imugr link it is clear two cartridges, Scott's hat, and the taser all fell to the ground. Scott seems to be dragging one of the cartridges behind him and the wires from the cartridge that fell near Slagers foot (the one he kicked while pulling his weapon) are wrapped around Slagers left wrist and left ankle.

    The two video's also show that at no point did Scott have control of the taser. He may have knocked them out of Slagers hand, but he never had hold of them and Slager was not tased. His left ankle appears to have been entangled in a wire, not shot.

    If Slager felt threatened it was his ego, pride and lack of respect toward his position which was threatened. NEVER was his life or anyone else's threatened.


    imugr link: http://i.imgur.com/fkNOcRj.gifv?_=1
     
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