Scotland - Baby's Body Missing from Coffin Exhumed for DNA tests 42 ys after burial

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  1. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Well-Known Member

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    Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-41122888
     
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  2. kaen

    kaen Trying to be a good human.

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    Wow. I hope she gets justice and finds her son.
     
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  3. LadyL

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    oh boy ... I wonder what she has uncovered
     
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    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    So did her baby not die and get adopted out? What is her theory here?
     
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    Elainera Well-Known Member

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    Maybe this (from article in post #1):

    That alone is shocking. But now to find that an empty casket was buried. That poor woman!
     
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    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    If they just took the organs why didn't they bury the body?
    Does this mean a funeral home was in on it?
    Or was it the hospitals responsibility to put the child in the casket?
    I'm so confused right now.
     
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    I'm almost thinking it might have been adopted out? Why would they show get a baby that wasn't hers? Or is she not remembering correctly?? Such a sad story!

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  8. jjenny

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    Considering she long believed the baby's body wasn't in the coffin, and she turned out to be correct, what makes you think she isn't remembering correctly? Seems like there is no problem with her memory.
     
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    I don't think she expected the coffin to be empty. I think she was shown a deceased baby that was not her baby and she believed that baby was placed in the coffin. She petitioned to get DNA tests done to prove that they had buried the wrong child. I think she believes her son died but was taken for his organs or medical research. I have to wonder if he really was alive and illegally adopted OR if perhaps he did die but his death was the fault of the hospital and someone wanted to cover that up so they disposed of the body to hide their error. Either way, I think they did not expect her to demand to see her baby at the time. JMO. :moo:
     
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    How awful that there were two babies that died at the same time! Even 42 years ago, it was not that common for a baby to die at birth.
     
  11. Elainera

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    They already admitted that they often took organs and tissue samples, I wonder whether now that an empty coffin was found they'll be forced to admit that they in fact gave whole bodies to research. But then the funeral home(s) would have to be in on it too, as someone pointed out above. I wonder whether they'll dig up more graves from that time now to verify if this is the case.
     
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    Did she not see her baby in the casket?

    The funeral home would have been the last one to have had responsibility for the body and casket. They would then leave it at the cemetery for burial, so who was in cohorts with the hospital?

    1975 wasn't that long ago and it's not like it was the dark ages. I had a child in 1976 in the USA. Sounds like this poor lady has been royally screwed over! I just can't imagine!!
     
  14. jjenny

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    Since the coffin was in fact empty, which she suspected from the start because it didn't weigh much, it stands to reason that she didn't see the body in the casket.
     
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  15. MelmothTheLost

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    That's not impossible but to be honest I'd see it as unlikely. At this time it was still very common for unmarried women, especially teenagers and students, to give up babies for adoption because of the lingering stigma over unmarried motherhood and because there were few provisions made in universities for students who got pregnant to be able to both keep their babies and continue their studies. As late as 1980, one of the women I was at university with ended her studies because she became pregnant and didn't want to have an abortion or give up the baby.

    There was no shortage of healthy babies for adoption at this time.
     
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    Perhaps her baby was given to the couple whose baby died.
     
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    Meeting promised by government over empty coffin case
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-41188102
     
  18. Gardener1850

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    [h=1]'It's all I have left of my son' Grieving mum who found her baby's coffin empty demands post-mortem sample[/h]
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/grieving-mum-who-buried-empty-11390890
     
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    A mum who campaigned for over 40 years to exhume her baby's coffin only to find it empty is taking legal action against the NHS to get back all that is left - tiny tissue samples.

    Tireless, Lydia has now instructed solicitors to take legal action on her behalf against NHS Lothian and Scottish Crown Office.

    She believes they have the only remaining parts of her son, and she's desperate to finally lay him to rest.

    Lydia said: "I am trying to raise funds to get the remaining parts of my son back.

    Edinburgh mum's legal battle to bury son who died just seven days old
     
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    A year later and she is still fighting for this? Poor Mum.
    I'm beginning to wonder if they have no samples to give her.
    Maybe they were long ago destroyed or maybe someone knows the samples are not her son?
    Could her baby have been illegally adopted out?
    I wonder if she has tried getting a DNA test to look for close relatives she might not know about... I would do that on the off chance my baby was out there in the world. She could find out she is a grandmother and not know it. JMO.
     
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