Found Deceased Shanann Watts (34) and daughters Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest*

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  1. Amonet

    Amonet Well-Known Member

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    I felt the same way about the little ones until I started reading the familicide cases on Wikipedia.

    I got this quote of CW's words from a 9News interview

    "I want those kids back so bad"

    I believe generally a person in CW's position would say "my kids" not "those kids". "Those" kids implies lack of emotional connection.
     
  2. Amonet

    Amonet Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but are you saying "Mr Nobody" is a cleaning product or are you saying when something got broken that "Mr Nobody" done it?
     
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  3. UltraViolet4545

    UltraViolet4545 Well-Known Member

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    My opinion— I don’t think CW knew the neighbors had a security camera that captured footage of his house.

    I think he backed his truck in, loaded their bodies up, drove off to dump them, and then continued on to work.

    I also think he was caught off guard by the friend sounding such loud alarm bells so quickly. He would have called/texted his wife throughout the day to make it look “normal,” and act like “she wasn’t responding to him.” Then call and report them missing when he got home from work. Things have gone awry though, because he didn’t realize there would be video footage of the front door, and he didn’t have enough time to set himself up as “growing more concerned throughout the day.”

    I also think it’s telling that she was planning to hang out that afternoon with the same friend that drove her home from the airport at 2am. IMO, to continue a “girls chat” they had been having in the car on the way home. Friend knew there were problems going on.

    All my opinion.
     
  4. jemjam

    jemjam Active Member

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    I know a ton of people have cameras but I can’t help wondering when the doorbell camera was installed. Wonder if it was about the time CW erased his SM.
     
  5. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    the toilet bowl cleaner?
     
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  6. Mamamerced

    Mamamerced Well-Known Member

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    I wondered about physical pain, too....then I considered he might be shy/introverted and his stance might reflect emotional pain. Wonder what their friends/family think about his stance?
     
  7. ZhaZhaHa

    ZhaZhaHa Well-Known Member

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    Yes, agreed with all of these things.
     
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  8. ZhaZhaHa

    ZhaZhaHa Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if he will be at the vigil. Part of me hopes he’s at the PD doing his polygraph, etc.
     
  9. i.b.nora

    i.b.nora I am polka dot

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    There are a number of "Vanish" cleaning products available in USA.
     
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  10. Amonet

    Amonet Well-Known Member

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    Mostly a range of stain removing products to remove stains from clothing, carpets, etc.
     
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  11. OldLadyBlues

    OldLadyBlues Well-Known Member

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    I dunno about "Vanish" but "Mr. Nobody" was pretty popular in my house when i was raising my boys.[/QUOTE]

    Mr. Nobody broke things.
    I think the girls were maybe taken somewhere with blankets but no shoes because I can't even go there on ANY parent killing their kids. Not only is it beyond my comprehension, but it's one of those things that I just don't want to understand further or I lose neutrality. It's probably self protection given my my former now retired occupation. :)
     
  12. flourish

    flourish Now With 30% More Emo

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    There is a cleaning product for toilet bowls called, "Vanish." Although it's listed as "discontinued here: VANISH Toilet Bowl Cleaner, 1 qt. Bottle, Unscented Liquid, Ready To Use, 1 EA - 2CXV6|90157 - Grainger

    I don't think the "anybody" vs "anyone" is odd in the US; I hear both interchangeably.


    ETA "Mr. Nobody" I've never heard of... Reminds me of the little invisible kids in the family circus comics who always did the naughty things..."not me," I guess is who I'm thinking of, though... Confusing myself now sorry
     
  13. i.b.nora

    i.b.nora I am polka dot

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    Yes. Notable that they specifically are mostly "stain removing" products.
     
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  14. HoldySi

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    Can someone confirm with links who actually has the doorbell camera? I keep seeing that it was video caught from the neighbors but I could’ve sworn at some point CW said something about their doorbell camera...
     
  15. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Denver News 7 Recap of Evening Report on Missing
    Shanann Watts & Girls:

    • Denver News 7 Video of their 8/14 Interview of CW has been viewed more than 100,000 times
    • LE monitored check points at the entrance to subdivision up until 6pm today, handing out flyers and asking residents to report anything large or small that may be a clue to disappearance.
    • Canvassed the neighborhood today for face to face contact with residents and to assure them there is no threat to the public.
    • Neighbor comment: we did admire them very much -lovely family but something doesn't smell right and disconcerting.
    • Unnamed Friend first contacted LE to report welfare/missing SW
    • LE interviewing CW but does not believe they are getting all the information -- believe he know more.
    • Don't want to rule anything out -- we need Public Help for anything that may have been seen.
    • CBI/FBI joined the investigation.
    Denver, Colorado Live Video Stream | thedenverchannel.com
     
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  16. LietKynes

    LietKynes "What do you despise? By this you are truly known"

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    Have there been any official reports about what was potentially recorded on the neighbor's sec. cams ?
    Also it's news to me about the doorbell cam.
    Did it record the sidewalk/street in front of the house, the doorstep,or pointed towards the front door to show who was visiting ?
    Although if she was taken out (or left) through a back door there'd be no cameras in those areas, correct ?

    Also thinking it's possible that a friend was helping her escape her current life.
    But why leave everything behind ?
    No diapers taken (for the youngest I'd assume), no extra clothes, etc. ?

    Did CW call any of her friends to see if she was hanging out at their place ?
    Thought I'd read that he placed a missing person's call by 1 pm the same day they went missing ? If so, that --and the "emotional" discussion (or whatever) really makes my hinky meter go off the charts.

    If I'm way off track -- and she and the two little girls are fine -- all the better.
     
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    The Watts have the doorbell camera - CW talks about seeing the friend at the front door via his phone
    ap & the neighbors across the street have the “driveway camera”
     
  19. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Around noon on Monday, using a doorbell camera, Chris Watts' said he saw a friend of his wife come to the home, but when no one answered, he became worried.
    Pregnant Colorado mother and two daughters reported missing
     
  20. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    And even more important is that LE has told local media that they don't believe CW has told them everything!!
     
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