Found Deceased Shanann Watts (34) and daughters Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest*

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  1. Momma2cam

    Momma2cam Well-Known Member

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    I'm curious if this is different if there is an active investigation, though. I'll ask my best friend who is a director at a DV shelter (and thinks I'm nuts for following cases on WS for fun).

    ETA: Unless a woman signs a consent form to release information to LE (or CPS), the shelter cannot confirm or deny someone is staying there. Very doubtful Shanann is at a shelter but I hope I'm wrong because it would mean SW and those beautiful girls are safe.
     
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  2. SuziQ

    SuziQ Well-Known Member

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    I bet LE isn't going let him pull the "We had an emotional discussion...and I'll leave it at that." Carp.
     
  3. JuStLiSs

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    Thank you I don't know why I didn't join sooner you people are all amazing
     
  4. SuperTmo

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    Maybe his mother, who clearly didn’t believe the girls had serious allergies and wanted to prove it by leaving nuts out for them to eat, convinced him to give them nuts and he accidentally killed them that way. As outlandish as that is, it feels a lot better than him doing something else to them.
     
  5. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    There was an article that showed pictures of the neighborhood canvas using K-9's but I haven't run across it. This article mentions a neighbor who saw them.

    Hallowell saw police K-9s and officers patrolling the neighborhood on Tuesday, she said.
    Little new information in disappearance of mother, daughters from Frederick
     
  6. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    Or maybe she came for a visit. I seriously want to know if his family was in the area. I wish they would make a statement.
     
  7. TeaTime

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    Who here has a doorbell camera? Do you look at it all day? Does it send you a message that someone is at the door? Do they have to ring the doorbell for it to work?

    Now, the story is that she had a doctor's appointment and was going to a friend's house. A friend stops by at noon and no one answers the door. He is watching the door on his phone. He said he was alarmed when no one answered the door.

    Why was he watching the front door on his house if he thought his wife and kids were home?

    On the other hand, why would he expect her to answer the door when she had plans to be out of the house?

    I am confused. But, if I had been in the situation to see someone come to my front door and no one answered, I would have assumed NO ONE WAS HOME, and wouldn't have been alarmed right away.
     
  8. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    I also wonder if they've sent the information to all hospitals in Colorado? Maybe even further out? So that if the child does have a reaction and gets brought in, they can recognize who she is?

    That's what I hate about LE not telling us what they are doing. We don't know if they have done something we are thinking of. When they and family don't want our suggestions... then we are just left to wonder if they've thought of it. Yes, it may seem obvious... but they are human too and they do miss things. We've seen it happen.
     
  9. mickey2942

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    I have no doubt CW has already "lawyered up". And is now being "mum" on everything that could help LE. I don't like being suspicious, but 99% of cases like this, we already know the outcome, and the most likely suspect. In Jeffrey McDonald's case, who BTW still states he is "innocent", the theory was that he was mad, flew off the handle, and realized he couldn't repair the damage, so he staged the rest. Or in Scott Peterson's case, he decided he didn't want a pregnant wife. He has also continued to state his innocence.
     
  10. mountainguy777

    mountainguy777 Former Member

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    Awwwwww shucks. :)
     
  11. Stunned

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    Ok, the last Thrive case we had on here the woman, maybe, faked her own kidnapping. I can’t recall and she posts so many posts a day, I have not had the time to go back and check on that. I do know she tried too kill herself when she was returned home. And came very close to doing so. Could the Moms disappearance be Thrive related?
     
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  12. Momma2cam

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    I started to type these exact thoughts but assumed he probably receives an alert through an app when someone rings his doorbell.

    I don't have a doorbell camera but do have home cameras. I get alerts if it senses movement (dog, which it's not supposed to detect) often. JMO.
     
  13. Denvergirl

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    The ring doorbell can send you alerts when there is movement or noise at your door. He may have it set to send him text alerts or the like. When his wife didn't answer, he saw someone at the door (her friend) and simultaneously that friend called him to tell him that his wife no showed for a dr appt and their planned meet up.
     
  14. ksprincess

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    I think it's just one of the daughters that has the severe allergy.
     
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  15. Amonet

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    I will conjecture that the friend came to the door was maybe going to accompany Shanann to the medical appointment. Maybe when there was no answer she tried to phone and she could hear the cellphone ringing inside the house but no answer? And maybe with Shanann being pregnant there might have been extra worries about her health...she might have worried that her friend was laying unconscious inside and called LE for a welfare check and called CW to let him know what was going on?
     
  16. TXBorn

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    We have one and no the doorbell doesn’t have to be rung for it to work. It will notify me via my phone and iPad if it detects movement or if the doorbell is rang. I can also pull up the camera at anytime without a notification
     
  17. KathrynL

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    I think I read that they have a Ring doorbell. I had one at my former home in Denver. You get motion notifications and if someone rings the bell it sounds on your phone. Either way you can see what is going on at your door and beyond, depending on how you set the zones on the camera. hth
     
  18. Stunned

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    It does not matter if it is one or seven! Whole schools don’t allow any peanut products in them. It can kill a child!
     
  19. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    SW may have told her friend that everything was not going so well with CW, maybe some serious issues, and when the friend couldn't reach SW, she was quite worried and contacted LE, LE does not normally do a Welfare check on an adult that fast...unless there is more to the story...
     
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  20. Jacquie1

    Jacquie1 Well-Known Member

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    This was posted to a FB page;

    So far these are the “facts” that are known..

    Arrived home 1:45 am Monday

    Husband left 5:15 am Monday

    Friend called, texted & went by at noon, reported her missing

    Husband came home from work

    House was securely locked

    Phone, purse, wallet, car and keys were all at the home

    Girls car seats and medication were at the home

    No Amber Alert - children believed to be with the mother

    Hospitals and pharmacies have been checked

    Police are aware she wears an Apple Watch

    K9's were used, they do not believe they found a scent to follow

    Police are canvassing the neighborhood

    No search parties yet as not to interfere with scents and investigation

    Flyers are being distributed

    Husband has been talking with and is cooperating with law enforcement

    Per friend, she had a doctor’s appt. in the morning

    Per husband, she and kids were going to a
    friend’s

    Colorado has asked for SBI and FBI for assistance
     
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