Shannan's 23 Minute 911 Call

Discussion in 'Long Island Serial Killer' started by Seaslug44, Nov 5, 2011.

  1. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Active Member

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    I appreciate your SIL post, and see how corrupt men like James Burke & Thomas Spota can be.

    In the last paragraph of your post are you suggesting that James Burke and Thomas Spota are responsible for the murders of Shannan Gilbert, the Gilgo Beach 4 & the other LISK victims (i.e., Jessica Taylor, Peaches and other unidentified victims)?
     
  2. deedee21

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    I have to wonder if Netflix is demanding something that other shows and documentaries have not?
    The killer.
    Otherwise its a no go.
     
  3. BeachBods

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    Last seen alive outside Hacketts house.......enough said. The man who admits to taking a daily dose of opiates he prescribes himself. He clearly has powerful sedatives on hand. Pak the man posing with his dogs dressed up in lil outfits? This man is clearly no hardened criminal capable of taking life in my opinion. On the sociopath career hierarchy doctors are#5. Hes so detached from reality and desperate for attention it's disturbing.
     
  4. BeachBods

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    People need to take comfort in the fact that the doc brought so much attention to himself, he can no longer harm/cleanse any other girls.
     
  5. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    Is this something he was in the habit of doing?
     
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    Gino Georgini.
    Is that a new name here?
    Havent heard it before.
     
  7. hawkshaw

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    I am not suggesting either one of them did it. What I will say is Burke is capable of doing it and Spota has protected him for the past 40 years. If Burke didn't have any part in the LISK case is only because someone else beat him to it.
     
  8. White_Rabbit

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    James Burke is dirty. My guess is that him and Thomas Spota may be Freemasons. I don’t believe James Burke is the LISK, but do feel he has a relationship to Peter Hackett and was trying to protect him regarding Shannan Gilbert.

    I only hope Judge Sanford Berland may not be a Freemason as well.
     
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    Bumping this oldie but goodie to ask a question.

    Are turret operators the same thing as dispatchers? When Verrone says she called and within 2 minutes was transferred to State police, is he speaking of Suffolk's turret operator doing the transferring? How many turret operators or dispatchers would SC have at 5 in the morning? What are the chances the one that transferred the original call also answered Gus's and Mrs. B's 911 call?
     
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    Alright Fluke, know that this is the thing that brings me back.
     
  11. Patience

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    What about the fright studies that were being conducted in New York? Can anyone rule out that the Gb4 were victims of fright studies? Who were the victims who were dismembered in the NIXVM videos that were shown to other victims?

    If Shannon's neck was tampered with then did they harvest her adrenalized plasma?

    https://nypost.com/2018/05/05/nxivm-doctor-charged-with-conducting-human-experiments/

    A doctor described as the resident physician to the twisted upstate sex cult Nxivm has been charged by a state oversight board with illegally conducting human experiments.

    The action comes eight months after the state Health Department refused to act on a complaint from a former cult member who alleged that Dr. Brandon Porter, 44, forced her to watch disturbing rape and dismemberment videos for a “fright study” he was conducting.

    Jennifer Kobelt, the former member of the notorious cult whose leaders are accused of brainwashing and blackmailing women into becoming sex slaves, said in her August 2017 complaint that Porter may have performed his “fright study” on as many as 100 people.

    “He continued to film my reaction for at least 10 minutes as I just sat there, dry heaving like I was going to puke and crying very hard,” Kobelt, a Canadian actress, said in the complaint to the Health Department, adding that Porter began showing her the violent images without warning.

    “He failed me, not only as a friend but as the medical practitioner I had trusted on numerous occasions with my health while I was in New York,” Kobelt said in the complaint.

    In a Sept. 6, 2017, letter, the state Office of Professional Medical Conduct told Kobelt it would not investigate Porter, adding that “the issues you have described are not medical misconduct.”
     
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  12. White_Rabbit

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    Interesting theory and write up, but I believe to be separate from the Gilgo Beach 4 case on the basis of the calls to Amanda Barthelemy.
     
  13. Breaking Bad

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    1) Yes I do know Pak; as a matter of fact on June 1, John Ray emailed me
    to ask me for Pak's address. I told Pak that Ray was looking for his address.
    Pak called John Ray, which, in turn, started a texting back and forth between
    the two;

    2) I called John Ray 2 days ago and spoke for about 45 minutes. We spoke of
    many things, and I asked him what the bottom line was about this case;
    I asked him if this case will be going to trial;

    3) he said that does not look that will happen;

    4) he said he is not a criminal attorney, he is a civil attorney;

    5) murder is a criminal act, why is a civil attorney taking on a case, in which,
    (I believe, I don't know about you) Shannan Gilbert was murdered.

    6) Mari Gilbert had an attorney in the beginning named Robin Sax. Mari
    (shoulda woulda coulda) should have stayed with her. I do believe
    things would be very differently right now if Sax had sued.

    END OF STORY.
     
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  14. White_Rabbit

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    At this point I believe Shannan Gilbert’s death was more of case of involuntary manslaughter. Joseph Brewer, Michael Pak & Peter Hackett are all culpable. I wrote up my theory in another thread, if you’d like to see it I will post it here for you.
     
  15. Breaking Bad

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    ok, I concur on Brewer and Pak

    Where does Hackett enter the picture.? I don't want your THEORY
    I want EVIDENCE, if you please.
     
  16. White_Rabbit

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    Please let me know if you think this is a plausible scenario:


    After the interaction with Gus Colletti Michael Pak follows Shannan Gilbert down Anchor way. Shannan Gilbert knocks on Barbara Brennan’s door and when there was no answer she runs across the street to the house of Peter Hackett. Perhaps Michael Pak catches up to Shannan Gilbert here. Peter Hackett advises that he is a doctor and invites them into his house. He then administers some type of medical treatment (perhaps an injection of some type of barbiturate) to Shannan Gilbert with Michael Pak present. The treatment calms Shannan Gilbert enough that she is able to leave with Michael Pak. She has a subsequent reaction to the treatment administered by Peter Hackett, on top of the other substances in her system, in Michael Paks SUV shortly after leaving Peter Hacketts house. Michael Pak panics at an unreponsive Shannan Gilbert. Michael Pak remains in Oak Beach until he feels the coast is clear and Law Enforcement has left. He subsequently dumps Shannan Gilbert’s body into the marsh (she may still be alive and unresponsive or may have already succumb to a lethal mix of drugs in her body). He takes her belongings and places them within the vicinity of Peter Hacketts house. He then leaves Oak Beach.


    During the interview on 48 Hours Moriarty states to Peter Hackett, “You called Mari on your wife's cell phone on the third on that Monday when Mari said you called."


    Peter Hackett is then quoted as saying, “Yeah, I'm sure I did. When you give ... look let me not get into it.”


    Could he have been about to say, “medical assistance” or “medical treatment”?


    *Note* It is standard practice for an escort to receive contracted payment upon arrival. Joseph Brewer contracted with Shannan Gilbert for $450. If standard practice was used in this case Shannan Gilbert should have had at least $450 in her purse. When her purse was discovered there was no cash inside with her other personal belongings. Michael Pak complained that he was wary about receiving his cut. Could not the scenario described above explain Shannan Gilbert’s missing money? Maybe Michael Pak got his cut after all.
     
  17. Ktsleuth

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    Can anyone assist me with figuring out what was the earliest date that Shannan's disappearance was publicized? I've done searches, but would like to figure out the exact date definitively. Any idea of the best search engine for that? AP, Reuters, etc?
     
  18. BeachBods

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    So Hackett has no ties to this investigation except inserting himself into it because he wants his just simply wants his name tied to this large cluster of bodies?
     
  19. White_Rabbit

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    I would think in December 2010 after the bodies of the Gilgo Beach 4 were discovered.
     
  20. Breaking Bad

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    Brennan does not live across the street from Hackett

    Hackett is around the bend and 2 or 3 houses over - depending
    upon how you count houses.

    You don't know Brewer contracted with Shannan for $450.
    How much was the drop?
     

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