Shannan's 23 Minute 911 Call

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  1. WINDSOR

    WINDSOR Well-Known Member

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    That may be hard to determine, Gus Colletti, is dead, and the only other person we know for sure who saw her at that time is Michael Pak, and he is not talking as far as I know.

    BTW, how do you see the purse or lack of the purse being important?
     
  2. lady gaga

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    Yes, she had her purse with her at Coletti's.Court tomorrow kiddies.
     
  3. da fino

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    she was running for her life, it seems pretty likely if her purse was a big bag, that she might be better of running without it. likewise, if she was fleeing a physical altercation.

    more importantly though, if she did not have her purse at gus colletti's, but was found with her purse in the marsh, i think it suggests something different.

    i don't know if i've seen this reported anywhere, have you? just curious.
     
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  4. lady gaga

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    Shannan grabbed the money that was on the table
    from the drug deal
    and ran.
    She took her money stuffed it in her purse and ran
    for her life.
     
  5. WINDSOR

    WINDSOR Well-Known Member

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    Lady Gaga, any news on the results of the Court proceedings? I have seen nothing in the Media.
    Thanks
    WINDSOR
     
  6. lady gaga

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    same ole
    same ole

    to be continued in April.
     
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  7. WINDSOR

    WINDSOR Well-Known Member

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    This is unbelievable!
    What ever happened to the dictum, JUSTICE DELAYED, JUSTICE DENIED
     
  8. da fino

    da fino Member

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    i must be missing something, i don't recall hearing anything about a drug deal. can anyone fill me in, and how are we taking this as fact? deposition or something?
     
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    April. Of what year?
     
  10. lady gaga

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    This year. Deedee what do you know of Portela.

    I had seen your postings of the FBI telling Portela to apologize to
    Leeann for telling LH that she called him in on the hotline for LISK.

    You know any more of this Portela guy?
     
  11. deedee21

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    SCPD is dragging their heals. They dont want to hand over the 911 tape.
    I was being sarcastic about yr.
    Not towards you.
    Portela? Dont know anything about him. Only what was posted during Leannes stay here.
    Was curious about one thing though.
    Leanne told Lindsay that she was contacted by LE first.
    Wonder if Lindsay asked Leanne
    " where did LE get your phone # from?"
     
  12. WINDSOR

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    Okay if Shannan had her purse with her at Gus Coletti's home, then left, was the purse ever located after that point. If so did it have any money in it?

    Secondly if the money was a part of a drug deal in Brewer's home, and likely Brewer's money, why didn't Brewer take part in the chase of Shannan?

    Third if there was a drug deal taking place at Brewer's house, and Pak was sitting outside in his SUV, who was the other party to the drug deal? There has to be someone buying or selling drugs to Brewer. Who was that person?

    It just does not make sense to me that Shannan would steal drug money from Brewer. Are you sure there was a drug deal? Brewer never disclosed that as far as I know. never said Shannan took his money either.

    If Shannan was afraid for her life, which was the reason for the 911 call, why would she bother to take money with her?
     
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    thank you, well said.
     
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    IIRC Purse (and shoes) were located before Shannan's body was found. I don't remember any report of money being found in the purse. And, also I don't think the purse and shoes were found near the location of the remains. I just remember the chief kept saying in his Irish accent "we've found Shannan's pocketbook, slip-on shoes and lip gloss".
     
  15. WINDSOR

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    A pocket book to me, is much smaller and different from a purse. Much less capacity for the pocketbook.
    It makes sense with the type of people involved that no money would be reported found.

    It is my understanding if you steal from a drug dealer, the penalty is death. So if there was a drug deal going on, and Shannan took the money, there is a motive to murder her. However I cannot recall anybody mention a drug deal taking place. Is that information on the 911 call?

    Are we really sure a drug deal was taking place, and are we really sure Shannan took the money? Any way to substantiate this?
     
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    i had a recollection that the purse was found in close proximity to her remains. i could very well be wrong on that, but that was my recollection.

    still an important detail in my mind. when she fled brewers after the 911 call, did she have the purse at colletti's? if not, she must have left them behind at some point before that. where the purse was located becomes very important in this scenario.

    for that matter, we can whittle it down to her phone. did she have that with her at colletti's? if not, where was it found. if so, why wasn't she still on the phone with 911? or why didn't she call for help from the marsh?
     
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  17. lady gaga

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    One of us on this thread spoke to Pak for two years.There are a lot of things the public doesn't know.
    Brewer didn't want to pay Shannan her cut. She wasn't having any of that crap from a schmuck like Brewer.
    Hi Pat Portela.
     
  18. fred&edna

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    Found an old post with map... and her cell phone was found with purse, jeans (how could I forget she somehow lost her pants!), and lip gloss. While these were found in same vicinity... they weren't exactly near her remains (IMO).

    Shannan Gilbert Found, death declared an accident. What do you think?
     
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  20. WINDSOR

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    Thank you,
    'Cut of what' did Brewer not want to pay? Her cut of a drug deal?
    Was Shannan at Brewer's for sex or for a drug deal or both?
    I always thought Shannan's boyfriend Alex Ruiz was the drug dealer not Shannan.
    Are we sure Pak was truthful?
     

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