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Discussion in 'Caylee Anthony 2 years old' started by Harmony 2, Dec 8, 2012.

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  1. MaryAnn

    MaryAnn New Member

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    It still feels like it was yesterday to me. I don't know why, maybe because it was so horrific what poor Caylee had to go through. Just unimaginable!!
     


  2. RR0004

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    I didn't want to believe it. I didn't think she was alive...not after they found evidence of chloroform in the trunk, but still...you hold out hope...even a little bit. Hopes were dashed that day...and I didn't think I could hate another human being as much as I did her mother at that moment...knowing she was left like trash on the side of the road.
     
  3. strawberry

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  5. strawberry

    strawberry Well-Known Member

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    And even then there was that little nagging doubt in my head..murder, rage attack, or accident? Accident didn't ring true but the thought of a fit of rage was a possibility. Now I am 100 percent positive she googled how to kill her baby as if she were looking up a recipe...and did it. And went to the movies. I am 100 percent sure.
     
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    You bring up some very impressive points - and there is also no empirical research or definitive proof to say that they are not born a bad seed.

    While environment controls much, genetics plays just as strong a role. It is not unusual to meet siblings who were separated form birth using the same hand gestures, making the same facial expressions and voice inflections, walking etc as their siblings if you meet them 20 years later.

    While we can speculate, even those who have studied sociopaths for years have differing opinions. I believe all those experts would agree a sociopath cannot be "cured".
     
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    Spice Active Member

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    That is her. Looks like it is venturing out into the public domain. I cannot wait for the day that someone throws a drink right in her face.
     
  9. strawberry

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    No mistaking her! My 16 year old wore a beret just like that to a concert this weekend. Excuse me while I go burn it.
     
  10. strawberry

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    One of the comments asked if that was Marinade Dave with her! LOL
     
  11. bayouland

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    Agree.......to........all...........

    :goodpost::yesss:
     
  12. Spice

    Spice Active Member

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    There is so much empirical evidence that points more to environment than genetic determinism. So much. I have to weed through it all of the time for school. There are reams of it.

    Hand gestures, voice inflections, and physical traits are not the same thing as sociopathy and lack of empathy. Those are definitely more a long genetic lines, the latter are learned.

    Sociopathy, personality disorders, pathology, lack of empathy....those things are behavioral and they are learned and shaped by environmental factors. We are not born with them. Other than the most primal reactions to hunger and need for touch and eye contact,behavior is learned, we are not born with complex behavior patterns or a complex personality. We go through very predictable stages of development. Baby should be reaching. Baby should be gurgling. Baby should be crawling. Baby should be walking. It is what happens in response to their needs that matters. Does their mother pick them up when they cry? Does she feed them when they are hungry. Does she hold them enough, talk to them enough, look in their eyes enough. A unique innateness exists yes, but it is not fleshed out yet. That is socialization.

    I respect your right to a differing opinion but we will have to agree to disagree. Anything but a mixture of biological and sociological factors or just socialization, flies in the face of everything that I have learned and utilize in the field of social work and in the realm of psychology and helping people.

    I have never personally heard one psychologist say say that their antisocial client was just "born that way." All of the ones that I have met, been taught by, or worked with would scoff at the idea. Are there papers questioning it? For sure. As there should be. We should always question what we think we already know. Is there empirical research proving it? No. There are no absolutes, such as a person being born evil. Usually the "evil" response is a way of us trying to understand the unthinkable. It must be "evil" because it is unexplainable. For me, it is easy to see how Casey's personality was shaped and evolved into what it is today.

    Lets just say, that if the small snippet of her parents behavior that was on display for the past 4 years is an indication of what went on in that house daily, then I am hardly surprised.

    What baby could be evil before they have learned to walk, talk, attach, empathize, love, or hate? As it is, children cannot be diagnosed with a major personality disorder. It is unethical. Not only are their brains not fully developed yet, but they are still developing socially. Genetics do not determine behavior especially deviant behavior, more than environment and socialization.
     
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    JBounds I feel lucky

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    The long horse looking face. Yeah it is her.
     
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    You would think the person taking the picture would of took more than one...or word would get around and many would take pictures, unless the PI stopped them.
     
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    They are probably marketing the rest.

    :furious: I hate them all. Sorry, but I do. :furious:
     
  16. Spice

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    LOL!!!!!:floorlaugh:
     
  17. strawberry

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    Notice she's hiding her ears. Those atennaes are a dead give away.
     
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    LOL My thoughts exactly just was afraid to say it for fear of a slap.
     
  19. MaryAnn

    MaryAnn New Member

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    LOL :floorlaugh:
     
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