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Discussion in 'Dr. Teresa Sievers' started by Greater Than, Jun 17, 2017.

  1. Kakidoll

    Kakidoll Karma never forgets

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    no, not yet... i'm eagerly awaiting though.
     
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  2. beach

    beach Verified Expert

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  3. Oregonmama

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    debbiegarcia36 Well-Known Member

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    I'm curious if LE asked CWW where he thought JRR got the hammer he used on TS. Could CWW not drop his hammer on the floor and instead hand it over to JRR?
     
  5. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 Godspeed, STAY AT HOME. Be connected when isolated

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    “We just couldn’t put the hammer in his hand and there was no evidence he was really in the house,” he said.

    "Meaning the jury agreed Jimmy Rodgers didn’t deserve to die for his role in the murder of Teresa Sievers. "

    Ummmm, jurors are not supposed to consider the sentence. And also they did not have to give him death even if he got first degree.
     
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    beach Verified Expert

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    Agreed. I think it boils down to they felt Wayne & Mark were the conspirators and, though culpable, Jimmy was the fall guy. He was guilty, but not as guilty as the others. There really was no proof that he was ever in that house. All they had was Wayne’s word that Jimmy participated in the actual killing. That’s not to say they didn’t believe he probably did, but you can’t convict on “probably”.

    This right here is everything - “You have the life of, not just the life that was taken, responsibility to them, but you also have a responsibility because you’re holding someone else’s life in your hands too, so it can’t be taken lightly,” said Roberts.

    Throwing out Wayne’s testimony and considering only the physical evidence, I think 2nd Degree Murder was a fair verdict for this jury.
     
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    I got the impression that Taylor's testimony was unbelievable to them. That was the only thing they requested when deliberating. JMO
     
  8. beach

    beach Verified Expert

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    I’m shocked they didn’t interview this jury post-verdict. You can learn so much by talking to them. I’ve thought about it a lot. I assume they felt when the verdict came down as 2nd degree, it was clear they didn’t believe anything Wayne had to say. Guessing they felt that was all they needed to know. I would disagree.
     
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    This sets the bar high for the State in Mark's trial and his lawyer must be very pleased with this verdict .
     
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    My hunch about that read back was Taylor said on direct that in that convo in bed that Jimmy confessed HE killed her. On cross, Fitzgeorge impeached her with her depo where she said she couldn’t be sure if he said it was himself or Wayne. That was pretty big, IMO. Just my hunch.
     
  11. Kakidoll

    Kakidoll Karma never forgets

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    I posted on the other TS board, but yes, the Prosecution team need to talk to those jurors. They have work to do and I bet Marks team is VERY happy with what this juror said. They will make Mark look like the loving parent, innocent, trying to protect his daughters etc.... we know that is the direction he's going AND what CWW said in his testimony. He'll get sympathy from SOMEONE in the upcoming trial thats in that jury room unless Pros. squash this from the opening statement. They better be prepared for ANYTHING and everything being thrown out.
     
  12. simlyme

    simlyme member since 04/2009

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    following here, got lost from other thread trying to find my way here :(
     
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  13. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    Wished the jurors could have heard Taylor's interview with Lebid/Downs, LCSO from 08-25-2015..months before any doc dump..

    As a refresher, here is the mp4 file :

    Shomaker.mp4

    All IMO.

    -Nin
     
  14. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    @beach - how come we have so many threads discussing the same subject? Should this one be for "other" stuff or closed - and trial discussion on the Trial Discussion thread? Getting lost on all these threads.... :(
     
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  15. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    Wink News article from today about the psychology that goes into choosing a jury:

    Deciders of fate: The psychology that goes into choosing a jury

    I received a jury summons last month and was able to excuse myself. I just could not imagine myself possibly sitting there and being asked, if I knew about the case..Who..? MS..? What..? When..?:eek::rolleyes::oops:o_O

    -Nin
     
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    beach Verified Expert

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    I know. :( Let me get through tomorrow because I’m a huge college football fan. I’m gonna get away from this case for 24 hours veg all day with queso, burgers and beer with some friends. I’ll get on here Sunday and re-organize this forum.
     
  17. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Go Auburn!! I used live in Auburn, CA. and always rooted for them! :)

    Take your time my friend - and enjoy the game! [​IMG]
     
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    Warrrrrr Eagle!!!
     
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    Thank you, Beach! We are so lucky to have you!
     
  20. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    FOX4

    What to expect in upcoming Mark Sievers trial

    "“Let’s say that they come back to Mr. Rodgers and say look we’ll drop that down to 10 years or 15 years or even 20 years if you will testify against mark Sievers,” says Pamella Seay.
     
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