I am not seriously considering the theory I was giving, it's fargo-ish in nature as it's the snowball rolling down the hill that wasn't even a planned murder, so therefore no motive in killing. But, in terms of the bus driver, I did confirm in the dassey docs that the bus dropped off at the end of the road they call "The Long Road". I am having a harder and harder time believing the Bus Driver saw teresa halbach unless she went down that road. The van is all the way down steve's road. Go in to google maps in streetview, and go .2 miles down a long flat/straight road, and tell me that you can identify a car and a person from that distance. From my tests, I cannot. But very open to anyone giving an example where they can identify a vehicle or a person. Maybe I'll see if I can set up some kind of google map for others to see what I mean. This is why in the past I have asked when the bus driver made the statement. What kind of relationship she might have with anyone on the property. Why the prosecution decided to discard her testimony. Not saying she is lying, but at this point, I am saying I don't believe she could have seen her given the distance. Maybe that is what was demonstrated in court ? Now, the propane guy, is a very different situation because he saw a vehicle leaving, so potentially was even just feet from a vehicle leaving the property. I question his statement as well for the same reasons as the bus driver in terms of WHEN the statement was made, if he has potential connections to the junkyard -- he was their propane guy for many years potentially -- and the prosecution discards his testimony. Even an explanation would help me exclude or include him. But, based on the long road, I see it more likely that the propane guy was reliable than the bus driver. I'll see if I can do a google street view or a real live test with a camera sometime this week and post that to give us an idea of if it's even possible to have seen her and her vehicle. The actual road is not visible in google maps. But if anyone has a picture from the property from that angle, let me know. Possible there was one in the trial to bring up this very point. Robert Fabian not being there is big hole! I had no idea when he was there. Would be cool to have some kind of overall list of who was there and the possible time frames they were on the property. I personally have seen no evidence/testimony at all that tells me when fabian was there. So definitely point me to it! I just speculated on Earl tipping them off about the key. from this article, which is an account from Sturm : http://www.milwaukeemag.com/2006/05/01/blood-simple/ So if you look at the map , first picture bottom of page , at this link : http://stevenaverycase.com/source-documents/#sthash.5hZG4WRG.dpbs You can see how close the area the vehicle was found is to Chuck Avery's and the business buildings of the junkyard, which is where they entered. Let's think about that for a moment, Earl is the reason no search warrant was needed. And just by walking them in a direction southward, what are the chances they are going to miss that vehicle with the cartoonish hiding attempt ? I say however long it took them to walk there, is the amount of time it would take, which is about right. Brendan and Blaine say that the Long Road is about 4-5 minutes to walk, when that is all you are doing. That road they took is similar in length, and if you are looking at cars along the way, 15-30 minutes makes alot of sense! So, again, I am in no way calling my theory likely, but wrapped in here are a few things I think everyone should consider : Bus Driver's testimony Propane Guy's testimony Long Road - is it possible to see teresa from the bus stop Earl is the one that gave access to the yard How close the rav4 was to Chuck Avery's How probable it is that Earl pointed them in a direction or the car was placed in the most logical direction from the business buildings, to easily be found ? All of these things are not heavily scrutinized, yet you can see they might have relevance if you examine them closer. I'm sure many don't even know Earl let the sturms on the property and that's why no search warrant was needed. Also do we know that ANYONE couldn't have been let on the property to search under the guise of looking for a car part ? My experience in going to a junk yard to get parts is that I'd be let in and I'd walk the junk yard looking for a car that might have my part. They'd allow me to point the car out, and if needed they might even make it more accessible so that I could take the part out myself. That would be for cars that weren't already stripped. So if the junkyard wasn't closed on that day, anyone could have entered the lot and said they needed a part. Did RH or SB or MH do that ? That's worth asking as well, even though it has nothing to do with this theory.