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TY Cottonstar and Juror13
The "Shakedown" brings it all into focus.

SILENT NIGHT

"we can tell you this, as fact…
  • This nightgown was made exclusively for Macy’s / Bloomingdales and sold in their stores in November of 1995.
  • We also have it from an internal source at Kmart that this is not a Kmart-sold gown.
  • This wasn’t a gown made for a life-sized Barbie doll."
 
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Cottonstar said:
Silent Night

Shovel off a few layers and one will find miles of mountainous misinformation and misdirection. But, it’s the silence and continued secrecy, mixed with a medley of malfeasance, that continues to hinder the case today. CS

Pink Barbie nightgown and other photo reveals:

SILENT NIGHT
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Cottonstar, love your blog!
 
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You know what's amazing about these Ramsey research projects - they always inevitably reveal other aspects that have also been muddled or hidden, like the brand and size of the boy's long johns. With the exception of the dust on the floor, everything you see in the perimeter of JonBenet's body matters!
 
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lisasalinger said:
You know what's amazing about these Ramsey research projects - they always inevitably reveal other aspects that have also been muddled or hidden, like the brand and size of the boy's long johns. With the exception of the dust on the floor, everything you see in the perimeter of JonBenet's body matters!
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Agreed! I'm interested in your take on the blood drops scattered on the nightgown. So for those to be dripping from her nose or mouth, would she be sitting up..or is the nightgown already removed? Again, excellent work!
 
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Excellent, excellent article, Cottonstar and lisasalinger.

I'd point out also that (except for his later hedging) John Ramsey said in his 1998 interview that JonBenet usually wore a nightgown to bed:

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14 MIKE KANE: The night before you
15 got home, I just had a couple of questions but
16 you covered it pretty much. When you were
17 saying you carried her upstairs. When you got
18 to her bedroom, and she was still asleep at that
19 point, did you put her in her bed?
20 JOHN RAMSEY: I laid her on the
21 bed. I didn't -- I don't remember the cover,
22 if the bed was made or not, but I laid her on
23 the bed. Because I knew Patsy would follow up
24 to put her nightgown on and get her ready for
25 bed.​


On a side note, notice also how he carefully chooses to correct Kane's phrase "put her in her bed" to "laid her on the bed." He does the same thing later on in the interview (even correcting himself):

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22 LOU SMIT: The night you put
23 her in bed, do you remember anything about
24 a Barbie nightgown?
25 JOHN RAMSEY: When I put
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1 her to bed she had on, when I laid her
2 down in the bed, she had on what she had
3 worn to the Whites. She had that same
4 shirt on when I found her.​
 
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otg said:
Excellent, excellent article, Cottonstar and lisasalinger.

I'd point out also that (except for his later hedging) John Ramsey said in his 1998 interview that JonBenet usually wore a nightgown to bed:

0497

14 MIKE KANE: The night before you
15 got home, I just had a couple of questions but
16 you covered it pretty much. When you were
17 saying you carried her upstairs. When you got
18 to her bedroom, and she was still asleep at that
19 point, did you put her in her bed?
20 JOHN RAMSEY: I laid her on the
21 bed. I didn't -- I don't remember the cover,
22 if the bed was made or not, but I laid her on
23 the bed. Because I knew Patsy would follow up
24 to put her nightgown on and get her ready for
25 bed.​


On a side note, notice also how he carefully chooses to correct Kane's phrase "put her in her bed" to "laid her on the bed." He does the same thing later on in the interview (even correcting himself):

0685
22 LOU SMIT: The night you put
23 her in bed, do you remember anything about
24 a Barbie nightgown?
25 JOHN RAMSEY: When I put
0686
1 her to bed she had on, when I laid her
2 down in the bed, she had on what she had
3 worn to the Whites. She had that same
4 shirt on when I found her.​
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Otg,

Thank you. Yes, that quote from JR in 1998 seems to be a spontaneous utterance. And “It’s a clue” to what she was probably wearing that night.
 
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Thanks Otg. There's also this one from 1998. Even though Kane previously refers to the pink long johns top as a nightgown top, still... John was there, he saw the clothing, there's no reason to fumble on this. There are nightgown bombs all over the place...

18 MIKE KANE: When JonBenet would get

19 dressed, and maybe you remember specifically on

20 Christmas morning when the kids got dressed?

21 JOHN RAMSEY: I really don't, I

22 mean all I remember was the pink nightgown,

23 because I remember her running up to the bed and

24 then. It's one of few images I have of her.

25 But she probably wouldn't have gotten dressed

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1 for breakfast or anything like that it, would

2 have been after we got through breakfast,

3 cleaned up. I don't remember whether she was

4 dressed when I left for the airport or not. She

5 might have been because we might have gone out

6 --

7 MIKE KANE: What time was that?

8 (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS.)

9 JOHN RAMSEY: Oh, it was 11, 12,

10 12:30, maybe in that range. 1 o'clock.
 
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lisasalinger said:
Thanks Otg. There's also this one from 1998. Even though Kane previously refers to the pink long johns top as a nightgown top, still... John was there, he saw the clothing, there's no reason to fumble on this. There are nightgown bombs all over the place...

18 MIKE KANE: When JonBenet would get

19 dressed, and maybe you remember specifically on

20 Christmas morning when the kids got dressed?

21 JOHN RAMSEY: I really don't, I

22 mean all I remember was the pink nightgown,

23 because I remember her running up to the bed and

24 then. It's one of few images I have of her.

25 But she probably wouldn't have gotten dressed

0680

1 for breakfast or anything like that it, would

2 have been after we got through breakfast,

3 cleaned up. I don't remember whether she was

4 dressed when I left for the airport or not. She

5 might have been because we might have gone out

6 --

7 MIKE KANE: What time was that?

8 (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS.)

9 JOHN RAMSEY: Oh, it was 11, 12,

10 12:30, maybe in that range. 1 o'clock.
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This gave me a shiver... I'm going to have another read of this interview in full tomorrow. This bit has a creepy feel about it to me for some reason.
 
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I remember that in PMPT he is quoted as saying JB was brought asleep into the house, put to bed (asleep, I presume) and then he proceed to read to her...who reads toa child that is asleep??
 
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