Site of attack on JNS: Can it lead to clues about Jacob?

Discussion in 'Jacob Wetterling' started by HEY YOU!, Oct 31, 2015.

  1. HEY YOU!

    HEY YOU! New Member

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    If this perp escalated his assaults from getting local kids in his neighborhood, to picking up Jared (and maybe others) and assaulting him in his car and releasing to picking up Jacob and not releasing that shows a pattern of change. Why would he revisit a previous location? It seems it was in a pattern of escalation, where he may go to assault a boy may not be the same place he would dump a body. He seemed to like some excitement and possibility of getting caught by choosing boys out of a group for example and letting Jared out after he had seen him and his car. Very risky. He also seemed to vary his location so I think that he is unpredictable even though he was clearly escalating his behavior at the time.
     
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  3. Sigrun

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    Excellent point. I think there are many different angles to "where" the assault might have occurred. But given what we know, there is no other lead as to where the assault might have occurred. Therefore, logically, we should look in the only place we know about.
     
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    But wouldn't it be logical that since he was escalating his behavior and no longer going back to the same location then he would take Jacob somewhere completely different? But I agree, if we knew where Jared's pick up and assault were then I would definitely do a thorough search in those areas.
     
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    Right, that is my point. That's what we know right now, so we should find out where JS's assault occurred. On your first point, totally agree. It might be only a slim chance, but it is some chance.
     
  6. HEY YOU!

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    Now that I think about it, DJH was keeping items of his victims so it may be that he put Jacob's body where he could go back and re-visit him periodically. I know that is something a murderer may do and since we know that he already collected souvenirs from his victims, it does not seem unreasonable that he would go back and revisit Jacob's body and/or the scene of the crime.
     
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    I was thinking something similar. If LE knew about this guy this long, they could have run a con job on him and got him to reveal where the remains were. I know they have rules they have to play by, but I think it could have worked.
     
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    As for the location of the assault, does anyone have any more detail? All I know is that JS indicated it was rural, on a gravel road and he thinks in the direction of Richmond.
     
  9. Sasquatch321

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    Why would he return to the JS site to assault JEW? The scene has already been busted. Plus if he knows he just left his tire tracks on the rassier driveway, the road JS was assaulted on was dirt too. How dumb could you be to connect your vehicle to two different places?
     
  10. HEY YOU!

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    If JS was assaulted on a dirt road, then we have established a pattern. A small pattern but perhaps this is one of his consistencies? Maybe his plan was to assault Jacob down the dirt road and drive away in that direction but his plan failed when he saw the DR house and had to turn around and exit the property.
     
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    This would be a valid reason for keeping DR the POI. It would give DJH a false sense of security and perhaps make him feel that he could move about without anyone watching his actions. Makes sense to me.
     
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    I wonder where the National Guard trained during that time frame? In one police interview Heinrich said he didn't remember what he was doing on that Sunday, but most Sundays he just drove around town or rented and watched a movie. I wonder if records are still around that show if the Willmar guard trained that weekend?

    http://www.startribune.com/what-we-know-about-danny-james-heinrich/338508931/#1

    The link above said this:

    Heinrich served as a specialist in the Minnesota National Guard out of Willmar from February 1982 until Nov. 24, 1991, when he was discharged under honorable conditions, according to the Minnesota National Guard. (Although the National Guard was part of the Wetterling search in 1989, it is unknown whether Heinrich was involved in the search.

    Maybe his time training would have enabled him to find out of the way areas?
     
  13. MotherOcean

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    I believe Jared was assaulted on a farm. He reported seeing some type of light there. There was something unique about the light. If I recall correctly IMO.
     
  14. bessie

    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    He thought that he saw the lights from the Richmond ball park in Munson Twp. The car stopped shortly after they passed the ball park. He looked out and thought he could see lights from the City of Richmond.

    Page 49 of the pdf.

    http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/wjon.com/files/2015/10/DanielHeinrichIndictment-Optimized.pdf
     
  15. Sigrun

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    In the two assaults he used two different cars. He made "exaggerated turns" to keep JS from figuring out where they were. And I doubt a man of this means had many places in the countryside in that area where he felt comfortable committing a crime like this. It was rural on a gravel road, toward Richmond and on a farm. I see no reason to think he wouldn't have used the same spot twice. I think there is a small but worthwhile chance that forensic evidence in the JEW case could be found there. Wouldn't hurt to look.

    And about a 15 minute drive from the Side Cafe in Cold Spring.
     
  16. MotherOcean

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    If Jared was indeed assaulted on a farm, and I am almost certain that he was, then that is another commonality with Jacob's abduction; it being on the driveway of DR's farm. That always stuck in my mind as a coincidence. That's why I remembered it. But, I am not familiar with the local area, so I figured there are many farms there. But, if there are not all that many, then perhaps DJH was aware that there was a farm at the end of DR's drive-way. I have to wonder if there is a connection between DJH and the Rassier family. Maybe DJH thought that DR had gone overseas with his parents. Could he have thought that no one was at the farm? But, I doubt he would be that brazen... to attempt to both abduct and assault in the same property. He knew there were witnesses so he certainly wanted to flee the area quickly. But, it is a coincidence nonetheless.
     
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    Doesn't mean much, but I note on page 53 of pdf linked by Bessie, DJH adamantly denied involvement in JS' case when arrested in Feb 1990. Obviously, DNA proved that a lie 25 years later. Makes me take with a grain of salt his denials of involvement in the JEW case now.

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  18. Sigrun

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    In trying to triangulate what we *do* know, the DR property is a bit greater than a 15 minute drive from Cold Spring, and very far from Richmond Ball Park. I think there is enough here to do a physical search. I've located the general area JS was talking about, within a radius of just a few hundred meters. What is needed is a map of the area from 1989 showing all gravel roads at that time. Once that is in hand, a physical search could be done and it would be pretty targeted. Just looking at a map like that could provide clues.
     
  19. bodester413

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    I tried following the path that Jared said he thought they took. If I found the correct baseball diamond that he spoke of, there is a farm near it. There's also what looks like some sort of gravel pit next to the farm. I'm not sure if the gravel pit was there during that time. The farm definitely looks old enough to have been around back then. Even now there is a large area that doesn't have much built on it.
     
  20. Sigrun

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    Yes, saw that also, but then wasn't sure when I realized we don't know what was gravel in 1989. Some of those roads could be paved now. Nonetheless, it does narrow it down because his last position was right between Richmond and a body of water, so not many other places to go. It really is a fairly small area.
     
  21. MotherOcean

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    Does anyone have a link to verify that Jared was assaulted on or near a farm? I ask because I can't track one down but I am very certain that i have read that reported, not just rumored, in the past. It stuck in my mind because I know that DR has a farm. Not saying it was DR's farm. Just that the coincidence stuck in my mind.
     

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