christine2448
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People in Oklahoma are just as he described...we will be there to support the families. The people in the community that never knew the family before will make it their goal to help them and not just for the moment. He has lifelong friends from strangers. We have a good heart and a long lasting memory.
Maybe this is why some of you don't understand my "passion" on cases. I am from Oklahoma. We truly care about other people. It could be in our genes or it could be the way we are raised...but it is there. We don't normally have to apologize for it.
O/T remark.......would you call my friend in McLoud and tell her that, she hasn't gotten that info.People in Oklahoma are just as he described...we will be there to support the families. The people in the community that never knew the family before will make it their goal to help them and not just for the moment. He has lifelong friends from strangers. We have a good heart and a long lasting memory.
Maybe this is why some of you don't understand my "passion" on cases. I am from Oklahoma. We truly care about other people. It could be in our genes or it could be the way we are raised...but it is there. We don't normally have to apologize for it.
People in Oklahoma are just as he described...we will be there to support the families. The people in the community that never knew the family before will make it their goal to help them and not just for the moment. He has lifelong friends from strangers. We have a good heart and a long lasting memory.
Maybe this is why some of you don't understand my "passion" on cases. I am from Oklahoma. We truly care about other people. It could be in our genes or it could be the way we are raised...but it is there. We don't normally have to apologize for it.
We do have this "heart" that makes us different. We were raised to deeply care. Sounds broad, but it isn't. I don't know how to explain it to other people across the country that have not experienced it...but I would say we are all raised with this sense of family/community/state. We are in this together no matter what. The same as the family unit. We are always cognizant of each other and treat them as "family".I too am from Oklahoma. Although I have not lived there for many years, I still consider it "my home". My husband never understood my passion for it until he visited OKC with me in May. He was blown away by the general camaraderie that exists between "Okies". While I no longer live in Okla. my heart will forever be there. I ache for the families of these little girls. Please let the murderer be found soon.
We do have this "heart" that makes us different. We were raised to deeply care. Sounds broad, but it isn't. I don't know how to explain it to other people across the country that have not experienced it...but I would say we are all raised with this sense of family/community/state. We are in this together no matter what. The same as the family unit. We are always cognizant of each other and treat them as "family".
I am delighted you are an Okie, too.![]()
While I'm sure you speak on behalf of many Oklahomans - you cannot speak in such sweeping generalities. There are bad guys in Oklahoma - just like everywhere else. It appears that one of those bad guys brutally executed these girls on a country road in broad daylight. That cannnot be glossed over. OTOH, I do not believe - for one second - that someone in that area who may know what happened will remain silent indefinitely. If someone knows something, they will come forward. I hope and pray...
Oklahoma is a great state, but there are other states with people who have the same affection for their state. The general problem is the neighborly atmosphere in the US has drastically changed in the last 50 years, and I don't see things getting back to "the way we were." Bad guys (and girls) have found their way to every township, county, city, and state - even the small town of Weleetka.
I am not surprised it has now turned into a race issue.
What do they expect LE to do? If the POI happens to be black, American Indian or some other minority, they can't put the sketch out depicting their possible race for fear they would be called racist?
A witness or POI is what they are. If they are white,black, blue or green then the composite should depict that.
I also saw another sketch done by this artist and it was of a black man, did they cry racist when that one was put out? When they found this murderer and arrested him ......well.......yes he was a black man.
OSBI must go by what the witnesses tell them. To not do so would be a derelict of duties. They are not there to be PC but to try and solve crimes including all races.
Just because Susan Smith and a few other murderers put out false composites doesn't mean this person did who is not even a family member or connected to this case per Brown. I highly doubt that the person who gave the composite is the killer like the Susan Smiths of the world since several others also stated they saw this same man that day on that road.
It strange though we never seem to hear this rift when we see composite saying the POI is white.
It does seem there was SOME reason the girls didn't run...or even avoid the killer(s) - perhaps they knew the killer(s) OR the killer(s) knew them....ie: called them by name or took Taylor's dog as "bait". The killer got very close and the girls didn't run - they were shot where they stood - fast. The killer(s) had to have been "ready" to shoot when he saw the girls...it sure seems to me the killer(s) came up on the girls already with the intent to kill them - they had no time to even turn their backs on the killer(s) when approached - and they were dropped fast - this killer wasn't fooling around, he wanted these two girls dead (with no chance they survived) and he wanted them dead fast and quiet. If the accounts by witnesses of the shots are correct the killer(s) didn't waste a second - no hesitation, no running or escaping victims, no question as to the event being 100% deadly. And then - the killer(s) left - by all accounts raising no alarm in people passed on the way - not speeding, not acting suspicious, not doing a single thing to call attention. That's HARDCORE - kill two girls in cold blood, leave the casings where they fell, and just shake it off like it was nothing and then disappear. And this was an ugly ugly scene - I don't think this was "kids" unless there is a budding sociopath in the area with access to two guns on a summer Sunday afternoon.I agree i still think the killer/killers is someone from that area. They got very close to the girl's . There are no bruises to show the girls were abused in a psychic way. No evidence they tried to run, fell etc. They didn't use their cell phones they didn't run ... they were shot close up and in an excution sort of way --sending a message to others. It leads me to believe they knew their killer/killers and thery were sending a message to perhaps the fmaily or community??
I totally agree. I don't see how the "race card" even fits here. The artist was simply doing the job. I think the sketch is remarkable and one of the very best I have seen across the country. If all of the sketch artists could do such a great rendering...it might make bringing them in a lot easier! The one I saw from this particular artist on another case was spot on (except the guy was younger).I am not surprised it has now turned into a race issue.
What do they expect LE to do? If the POI happens to be black, American Indian or some other minority, they can't put the sketch out depicting their possible race for fear they would be called racist?
A witness or POI is what they are. If they are white,black, blue or green then the composite should depict that.
I also saw another sketch done by this artist and it was of a black man, did they cry racist when that one was put out? When they found this murderer and arrested him ......well.......yes he was a black man.
OSBI must go by what the witnesses tell them. To not do so would be a derelict of duties. They are not there to be PC but to try and solve crimes including all races.
Just because Susan Smith and a few other murderers put out false composites doesn't mean this person did who is not even a family member or connected to this case per Brown. I highly doubt that the person who gave the composite is the killer like the Susan Smiths of the world since several others also stated they saw this same man that day on that road.
It strange though we never seem to hear this rift when we see composite saying the POI is white.