Solving the Long Island serial killer case

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  1. ProfilerQuantico#1

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    Passing a lie detector test does not rule out a person of interest.
     
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    I know this sounds maybe not in the right direction but, if there were two serial killers you think maybe by off chance they are related or know each other very well, but have two completely different M.O.'s that's why some were killed in a different fashion, or it's just one and he changed up to throw off the investigators'.
     
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    Also a person with Anti-social personality disorder can pass a lie detector with flying color's and I do believe LISK has this because most if not all serial killers have this disorder, just look it up in the DSM-V of mental health disorders.
     
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    Justsayn Well-Known Member

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    My thought was this, the woman and toddler possibly a mistress and the father of the baby killed her?and dumped her? Possibly, the owner of the landscaping business? The trans was possibly killed by brewer. Because he stated with The S incident he did not want to have sex with a man.this was before trans was found. Maybe there happens to be 3 killers the above mentioned did not realize there was a dumping ground there? And the question that I have is was the toddler killed or just left there with the mother? I know most children this age would not leave their parent or at least go far. Could the mother be reported missing but, family does not know about the toddler?
     
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    So I used to be a sex worker and being in this type of industry takes you down some really dark and disturbing roads. While I myself was an independent escort I was part of the generation of Craigslist ads. These men that answered almost always are sketchy. I've seen it all and even had a few encounters that have scarred me for life. All this being said this case baffles me for multiple reasons. Let's say they all or some had pimps. They almost always are making sure their women are safe so where were their security? Especially on outcall basis you are entering unfamiliar territory. You have no clue what this person has in store where as an incall YOU have more control. A safety system should always be the first line of defense. I had multiple ones. Someone always near by, phone preprogrammed to 911 (you cannot be charged with prostitution and or soliciting if you are in danger) and lastly notifying when my John enters and leaves. From my understanding these were seasoned women meaning they knew exactly what they were doing and the risk that came with it.

    So here is my theory.

    This sounds like multiple persons given the two types of MO so close together but I won't rule out 1 man creating all this mayhem.
    These men ARE certainly Johns.
    FYI - These types of men generally run in packs. They are sick, degrading men who enjoy what they do. I myself have encountered men like this.
    Most likely into the darker side of play but probably starts out with basic girlfriend experience play.
    They/him are definitely regulars.
    They/him have a built trust with these women leaving them to believe they can let their guard down. Biggest mistake in this industry is thinking you are safe when you never truly are.
    They/he may stalk them.

    As for the local bit, I'm not buying it. I believe yes, he is a native New Yorker but he probably knows the area so well from spending countless summers on those beaches. There is almost always the possibility of this being a police officer/vice.
    Just because they/him is considered a man of the law doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I've seen numerous cops, troopers, and even the occasional politician.
    These drop sights are NOT where the women are being killed, something about this area excited him and drew him to want to mark this as his own. But I believe he has a killing sight, somewhere he enjoys his time with these women.
    This man or men have some extensive knowledge in what they are doing forensically by leaving little to no evidence.

    If this is only 1 man, he's tactical, calculating, manipulative, charming, and probably a grade a sociopath which frankly isn't rare these days.

    My question is this, now that Craigslist is gone as well as backpage this only leaves room for the deep rooted escort sites that are soon to be shut down. What does he do now?
    How does he find his prey?
    I say prey because that's exactly what he is doing, targeting women who are addicted, alone, homeless, and worst of all DESPERATE.

    I'm intrigued to see how far this gets shoved under the rug before enough is enough. It's sad that this all has happened because it shouldn't have but with every risk there is a payout unfortunately it was untimely deaths.
     
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    Hollowspiral1 Diagnosed as Demented

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    There are 2 separate killers at play here. LISK's end result was merely for sexual pleasure with the victim ending up strangled and disposed of neatly. He's a conservative killer. He has a limit he does not cross, especially into mutilation. The way he disposed of his victims tells me he doesn't have the stomach for it. A torso killer, however, has no issue at all with total destruction. That's the end goal. Yes it can be sexual as well, but the sex itself is not completely gratifying. There is a fueled rage and hatred in this person so great, there is not going to be a whole body left to find. Some try to dispose of the identifying factors so the victim cannot be identified, others simply don't care. There are so many different types of murderers, even some they haven't even begun to profile, and those that will break all current profile proven facts. You cannot predict a killer. You cannot recognize a killer. You may have talked to one today. The idea of it is disturbing, but it's the reality we live in.
     
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    Hollowspiral1 Diagnosed as Demented

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    As for the websites being gone, that doesn't matter. Ridgway used no internet and had so many victims it makes LISK look like a beginner in comparison. To me, the websites just made it easier. No footwork or cruising around for victims, you could simply hop online and select from a buffet of victims, and they come to you. Every case you hear the saying of "depending on good old police tactics" paying off, well killers have old tactics themselves and it does not involve technology. Money is tempting, and yes, the root of all evil. Sounds to me LISK got an idea from Pretty Woman where the offer of a large amount of money from a charming man could not be turned down by working girl Julia Roberts. Truth is, safety is put on the back burner when money is involved. The larger the amount, the possible answer of no is seldomly heard. Killers know this, so to lure victims why not offer an abundance of something you need? Money, drugs.....etc. Ants will always attack you until you give them something sweeter, and humans are NO different. When enticed by something the guard goes down and then, it's another victim. It's like a hunter watching over a baited field. When distracted by the bait, all power and control goes to the hunter. Food for thought....Later
     
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