SPAIN - Daniel, 46, & Liam Poole, 22, British tourists, Estepona, Malaga, 1 Apr 2019

Discussion in 'Missing Persons Discussion' started by cybervampira, Apr 7, 2019.

  1. Elgana

    Elgana Well-Known Member

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    Thank you so much for giving us this extra information. Unfortunately, without this kind of input you will get much more speculation and incorrect theories bouncing around.

    In respect to your family I will delete my previous speculative post about the other arrests and cannabis, as with this extra information it now seems like it is unrelated. I am sorry you are having to go through this but please know that many people here are doing their best to help and some have been through similar things to you themselves.
     
  2. Legally Bland

    Legally Bland Well-Known Member

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    This is a checklist for families of missing people. It's American, so a fair bit isn't relevant, but it has tips for creating flyers etc, which may be useful.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/checklist.pdf
     
  3. CoverMeCagney

    CoverMeCagney Well-Known Member

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    If a relative or friend goes missing abroad, this Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) guide will tell you what you can do and who to contact.

    This information refers to people who go missing while travelling or living abroad.



    1. Report the missing person to the authorities in the country they went missing

    Responsibility for searching in other countries rests with the local authorities where they went missing, usually the local police. You should report the case to the authorities in that country. If you need advice on how to do this, you can contact the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) 24/7 on 020 7008 1500.

    In some countries, the process will be different to the UK, including the level of service. For example, they may not accept a missing person report until a certain amount of time has passed. In some countries, they will not accept a report in English so you may have to arrange and pay for a translation.

    2. Report the missing person to the UK police
    It can help if you file a missing person report with the local police in the UK as well as in the country they went missing. You can do this with the local police where you live, or where the missing person lives in the UK.

    You should make a specific request that they inform the National Crime Agency’s Interpol bureau (or the SIRENE bureau if they went missing in the EU or EFTA), which can liaise with the police abroad.

    UK police forces do not usually become involved in an investigation in another country. Even where they are ready to, they can only do this at the invitation of the authorities in that country.

    3. Contact the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO)
    You can contact the FCO by phone 24/7 for help or advice from anywhere in the world by calling 020 7008 1500, or by contacting your nearest British Embassy, High Commission or Consulate. You do not have to wait to report the person missing to the FCO.

    Try to provide as much information as possible about the missing person, for example:

    • name, date of birth and place of birth
    • passport details, if known
    • the last place, date and time you or anybody else had contact with them
    • travel itinerary and who they are travelling with
    • whether they have a medical condition
    • mobile phone number, email address, social media account
    • insurance details, if known
    How the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) can help
    The FCO can:
    • check its consular records to see if it has had any recent contact with your relative or friend.
    • give you information about the police or local authorities in the country they went missing so you can make a missing person report.
    • liaise with the authorities in the country they went missing and keep you informed of their progress and pass on any requests they make to UK authorities.
    • provide you with details of organisations specialising in missing persons, including the Lucie Blackman Trust, a UK charity that assists families whose relatives go missing in other countries. Please note, that as these are independent organisations, the FCO cannot be held responsible in any way for their advice and/or any decisions and outcomes that result from this.
    • If you decide to travel abroad to search for your relative or friend, staff at the British Embassy, High Commission or Consulate can offer information on local conditions and help you arrange meetings with the local authorities and investigating agencies.
    Missing Abroad
     
  4. mrsjonesjo

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    <modsnip: quoted post was removed>

    It's usually people who live here on the Costa Del Sol that make comments about drugs etc...... because we know the area, know why people visit 'not on holiday' for a weekend out of season and know what happens when you cross the local Russian bosses... it's a numbers game.
     
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  5. CoverMeCagney

    CoverMeCagney Well-Known Member

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    <modsnip: quoted post was removed>

    To be fair on this forum if we don't have supporting evidence there tends to be speculation, that is what a discussion board is for. Drugs might be mentioned as one of many possible theories, and rightly so (though I'll be honest, it doesn't come up that often in British threads).

    I think most of us were fuelled by the news reports of a British father and son getting arrested in Spain, not far from where Danny and Liam were last seen. A fair enough topic of discussion, I think, given we don't personally know the men, and had very little information until Lauryn kindly joined us.
     
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  7. moonriverfarm

    moonriverfarm Well-Known Member

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    Hinky meter at red level.
     
  8. dotr

    dotr Well-Known Member

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    British Father And Son Still Missing In Spain - 93.6 Global Radio
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    Detective Sergeant Alan Fenn of the Missing Persons Team said: “This is extremely unusual behaviour from Daniel and Liam to not be in contact with their family. We are eager to hear from anyone who has made contact with either Daniel or Liam.”

    Descriptions
    Daniel is 46 years old, 5′ 9″ with a heavy build and grey hair. 22 year old Liam is 6 feet tall, medium build, with short light brown hair. If you have any information please contact British police on +44 1273 470101.

    Published: 16.04.2019
     
  9. CoverMeCagney

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    Right, good, the Missing Persons Team are on it. @Laurynpoole have you spoken with DS Alan Fenn?

    Also I notice that report is from Global Radio which is based in Malaga bringing news from the Costa del Sol, so that's a big positive.

    Hopefully the ball will get properly rolling. I still think a FB page would be really useful to get the info pushed more into Spain.
     
  10. Plo_Koon

    Plo_Koon Former Member

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    Do you need passports to go from one European country to another? Since Brexit hasn't been finalized, I'm assuming UK is still part of the EU.
     
  11. dotr

    dotr Well-Known Member

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    Wondering if D&L Poole might have taken a boat ride to visit potential properties or to sightsee?
    speculation, imo.
     
  12. CoverMeCagney

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    Not sure if that would be a very effective way to do it and I can't imagine they'd set sail anywhere on their own.
     
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  13. CoverMeCagney

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    Yes, still part of the EU thankfully, but also yes, we still need passports to travel as we are not within the Schengen agreement countries. I have no idea how easy it would be to travel to, say, Portugal as a Brit without a passport. Does anyone know?
     
  14. Suglo

    Suglo Well-Known Member

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    Last time I traveled from Spain to Portugal in 2008 there were no border crossings or stops. One minute we were in Spain and the next, Portugal. Same goes with France.
     
  15. overtone

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    Why now have we been enlightened with this information?

    One last question who buys property in cash? So if they had cash it is not for that reason.
     
  16. CoverMeCagney

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    So you'd only need a passport to get out of Europe or to visit European countries NOT in Schengen (which are Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Ireland, Romania, United Kingdom)?
     
  17. Suglo

    Suglo Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.
     
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  18. CoverMeCagney

    CoverMeCagney Well-Known Member

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    Lauryn didn't say they had cash. I asked if they did as it might be a reason for someone to scam them or rob them. She said "They were looking to put a deposit down on a property, and they were hoping to find one while they were away there."
     
  19. worldwatcher

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    Hi Lauryn,
    If you need any help or support for a missing persons flyer in Dutch or German,let me know. I could spread it around on other (Dutch and German ) forums as well.
     
  20. overtone

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    Lauryn didn't say they had cash. I asked if they did as it might be a reason for someone to scam them or rob them. She said "They were looking to put a deposit down on a property, and they were hoping to find one while they were away there."

    Needs cash for the scam or are you saying wired monies?
     
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