(Please excuse the rambling nature of this post... The Questions running through my head are totally confusing me. Please help me correct any mistakes in events I may have incorrect.) Patsy's repeated comments that JBR was "zonked out" just keep ringing in my ears. It seems as if they were a slip of the tongue, admitting partial truths or words repeated and so "over emphasized" that they seem as if they were a 'sub-conscious' justification for why the "accident happened" from the "guilty" feelings running through her head...???...:waitasec: Maybe they were, in part, said to prevent other related questions from ever being asked by investigators. If a child who frequently wets the bed is asleep before being put to bed, what parent carries a sleeping child inside the house asleep, following an evening out, changes them into bed clothes and does NOT carry them to the potty before putting them in the bed and/or puts on pull-ups?????:waitasec: If JBR wasn't asleep when she returned home, surely one of the R's made sure she "went" before JBR was changed for bed, but I remember NO MENTION of 'potty time'. Do any of you? (We don't know whether BR's 1st account of JBR helping to carry 'things' inside when they returned home or whether JR and PR's accounts of JBR being asleep when they got home is correct. It really doesn't matter, either way, any parent would take their child to the potty before putting them to bed.(Especially with a history of bedwetting and no time to deal w/wet bedding and wet night clothes w/ an early morning trip planned.) At worst, if the parent was really lazy and didn't take her to potty she would most likely STILL put pull-ups on them before putting them to bed if she went to the trouble to change her into night clothes! But there were no pull-ups on her in the accounts of PR putting her to bed! PR never admitted putting pull-ups on JBR when she changed her for bed nor that she took her to the bathroom. Correct??? No pull-ups were found on her body, but it was evident that the bag of pull-ups had been altered and had been used recently. Maybe she had the pull-ups ready to put on JBR but never got the chance to put them on her...) Has anyone ever read anything in recounts of that evening in which LE ASKED PR or JR if they took JBR to the potty before putting her into bed? PR admitted to the usual schedule including waking JBR to potty around 12AM. Correct? Were there no questions by investigators about no pull-ups, no potty trip before changing her for bed?? I haven't found anything in transcripts along this line of questioning... Have any of you??? Could PR have been too rough or too careless undressing/redressing an already sleepy JBR, at the potty before she put her to bed, and she accidently caused the (accidental) blow to the head near the potty or bathtub? Could the lie about JBR being "zonked out" have been fabricated to set up an answer to the inevitable question by LE of "Why didn't you take JBR to the potty before putting her to bed?" :waitasec: Maybe she did...and a tired, sleepy, ill JBR was difficult and that is where the accident happened. That would explain the need to say JBR was "Zonked Out". In any event, I think PR's repeated words that JBR was "Zonked Out" are very telling. At one point at least, during the evening's events, JBR would indeed have been described as "Zonked Out". Those two words, IMO, tell more than PR ever wanted anyone to realize.