State vs Jason Lynn Young: weekend discussion 11-18 Feb 2012

Discussion in 'Michelle Young' started by otto, Feb 18, 2012.

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  1. Just the Fax

    Just the Fax Justice For The Fisher's

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    Yep, it's my opinion MoonFlwr.
    Not "personal" at all.
    Just my observation reading your posts.
     


  2. MoonFlwr

    MoonFlwr New Member

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    What you said is a personal attack; you're questioning my
    objectivity.

    The statement "I'm not surprised" or "you didn't want to hear it"
    calls my objectivity into question. . .

    No amount of passive aggressiveness or bullying will convince me
    that I heard specific words when I really heard nothing.

    Speculation on my subconscious is a bit out of your jurisdiction Sheriff.
     
  3. thumbtack

    thumbtack Active Member

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    Audiologist here (speech pathology big part of curriculum). I was not expecting to hear "daddy did it" & certainly not clearly, given the speech patterns of a 2 1/2 y old & all the background noise. In addition, someone can "hear" something when that is what they are expecting. So, I was very skeptical before listening to the tape.

    I heard "daddy did it" clearly at 05:02 (for what it's worth).
     
  4. Just the Fax

    Just the Fax Justice For The Fisher's

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    MoonFlwr, I would suggest you use the ignore feature for me.
    Thank You.
     
  5. PoppyMcTwist

    PoppyMcTwist Member

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    I hear "Daddy"...followed by two more syllables. Those syllables could be anything.
     
  6. Just the Fax

    Just the Fax Justice For The Fisher's

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    At 5:02?
     
  7. PoppyMcTwist

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    Yes, at 5:02. I hear what could be "Daddy" followed by a two quick syllables of speech.
     
  8. Turnadot

    Turnadot New Member

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    I didn't follow the first trial, but I'm following this one.

    I've listened and I hear, 'Daddy...' then something else said but it's not clear to me. However, I'm not a native English speaker, so perhaps it's just too quickly spoken for me to catch.
     
  9. White Rain

    White Rain Active Member

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    I agree with Moonflower and Poppy....
    Just the Fax, it doesn't mean we are wrong when we don't necessarily hear what you did......or that any of us should be told "we didn't want to hear it."
    We could very will think Jason is guilty and still not have heard what you did, or we (not me though) could think he is innocent based on the evidence.
     
  10. otto

    otto Verified Expert

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    I've noticed too that the images are manipulated. I've modified a couple in photoshop and can see that the color is definitely changed before I start my modifications. The original photos may be over-exposed so they're tweaked for that reason - not sure what has been done altogether. I would like to see the originals. I posted the left foot after tweaking color - much can be done to alter an image without distorting it, but it does change the image.
     
  11. calamityjane831

    calamityjane831 Verified registered nurse

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    yes I completely agree with you. With this type of play and words from a small child you have to use your critical thinking and see the forest for the trees.
     
  12. otto

    otto Verified Expert

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    I don't know about that. If enough enhancing is done by someone that knows the software, the result can appear completely different than the original.
     
  13. otto

    otto Verified Expert

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    I have never heard anything about "daddy did it" on the 911 tape. I've listened to it many times, from the first day it was released until now and I simply do not hear it. If I fill in some gaps and make a couple of assumptions, then I could say that I hear it ... but not otherwise ... and not if I believe Jason guilty, not if I question his guilt ... never.
     
  14. Turnadot

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    Yes, because it's been enhanced, which can allow more detail. Enhancing the image is absolutely not the same, or even in the same ball park as manipulating and editing the image.

    IMO
     
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    Looks like a man in a suit to me.
     
  17. Madeleine74

    Madeleine74 Knower of Things

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    I listened again. She says "full scrubs." Not white scrubs.
     
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    borndem Anglophile & registered demwit

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    I agree, Mama-cita -- I still think if CY had witnessed an outsider, a burglar, etc., hurting her mommy, her emphasis when she spoke would be on the bad man, not on her mommy, such as: "Bad man hurt mommy, bad man hurt mommy!"

    Instead, she doesn't dwell on the person doing the bad thing, she sees it perhaps from a personal perspective that she may have experienced -- so she said, "Mommy being spanked for biting." It is obvious to me that although this scene upset her enough to act it out, she apparently didn't cry and or scream and appeal to the teacher in distress as I think she would have if a bad man had done it. Just a thought.
     
  20. Just the Fax

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    Sorry White Rain, I am not attacking the few that claim they did not hear what the vast majority of us heard. That sequence of the recording was the only portion deleted by the court....apparently there was a very serious issue.

    At the end of the day, it was not admitted, so the jury will not have the same debate.
     
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