State wants answers from Baez

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  1. Leila

    Leila Active Member

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    I've watched trials in other states, and as a rule all court orders are directed at the defense team or prosecution team, no matter how many attorneys might be on either side.

    This is why I question why JB is singled out, and his co-council isn't also subject to contempt for not seeing to it that the deadline was met.
     


  2. Intermezzo

    Intermezzo Well-Known Member

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    I respectfully disagree, I believe Casey does know what is going on with her case...
    I will have to go back and check but I thought Baez Law Firm Lawyer (and also listed on the Motions with Baez) Michelle Medina was visiting Casey more often.
    From what I remember of the visitation logs..Mason has not been to see her in jail since August..and Baez was December..but I have not seen an up to date list yet for January and February 2011.
     
  3. Intermezzo

    Intermezzo Well-Known Member

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    I agree!!!!!
    Plus it also gave him the time for his "unique opportunity" travels
     
  4. Intermezzo

    Intermezzo Well-Known Member

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    Imagine That!!!! :floorlaugh:
     
  5. Leila

    Leila Active Member

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    HHMP made it a point a couple of hearings ago to mention the jury procedure. He said it was necessary to set in motion all that was going to be needed........lodging, medical, meals, security, etc. He said that in order to secure lodging that a portion of the money had to be on deposit by a certain date. He then paused and looked around, then concluded with words to the effect of "just to let you know."

    I had the feeling that at that point he was letting both the prosecution and defense know that once deposits and arrangements made, there would be no delays in the trial date. If either side felt they wouldn't be ready in time it was sort of "speak now or forever hold your peace" type of thing.
     
  6. Intermezzo

    Intermezzo Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.
    Baez was already found in Willfulll Violation of a Court Order and he has now missed another Court Ordered Deadline...I don't care how minor it is said to be..Baez had a Court Ordered deadline to obey, he did not meet the deadline..AT ALL..did not even try...he was too busy getting ready for his "unique opportunity"...in Chicago...
     
  7. Leila

    Leila Active Member

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    If a mistrial was declared due to the incompetence of the defense, am I correct that because Casey has been declared indigent a public defender would be appointed to be her defense attorney? Are there public defenders that are death penalty qualified? Would CM stay on or because of a mistrial being declared, his obligation is terminated too?

    I would assume that a mistrial would delay a retrial by at least another year.
     
  8. rhornsby

    rhornsby Board Certified Criminal Trial Lawyer

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    I did not base my opinion on "all these missed deadlines," I based my opinion that Ashton's request was extreme given that Baez had sent an email to the Court and Ashton (which is technically writing) that essentially asked if the Court wanted him to regurgitate his previous objections to the Trunk Air evidence if those were the only ones he was going to go forward with.

    That by itself is not a basis to hold someone in contempt, which is why I found Ashton's request extreme.

    My opinion would have been different if Ashton had listed the litany of deadlines Baez had missed and then requested Baez be held in contempt. But Ashton did not, so I believe his response was a lot.

    Finally, the context of my opinion was that Ashton's motion highlights a clear difference of opinion about the two parties ability to work informally to meet judge Perry's deadlines; Baez thinks it is fine and the State does not.
     
  9. Intermezzo

    Intermezzo Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for explaining what you based your opinion on.
     
  10. rhornsby

    rhornsby Board Certified Criminal Trial Lawyer

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    Actually no, Baez would still be the attorney of record. And a retrial could -technically - begin the same day the mistrial was declared (although this is usually only done in less serious cases).
     
  11. MD MOMMY

    MD MOMMY Active Member

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    Respectfully, I have seen many emails of JA attempting to work with Baez. Take a look at the expert witnesses emails that went back and forth between the two of them. JA IMO is straight up, fed up. He has tried the route of communicating with JB before going in front of HHJP. It got him absolutely no where fast. It's quite obvious to me, JA is frustrated and nothing is working to get JB off his arse. I think JB could clearly use the list serve he used in the very beginning of this case to clarify his confusion. He needs one thing and that is HELP, he is in the land of the lost. Has CM ever dealt with Frye hearings before or what? I'm not impressed with his knowledge either.

    ETA: Not to mention JB was ordered to submit the issues he was objecting to for the Frye hearing by 2/17. JA contacted JB on 2/18 in regards to this. IF JB was confused fine, then figure out what you need to do by the deadline. NOPE he waits for JA to contact him first. Then JB writes to Jill. JA didn't file his motion until 2/20 two days later. JB at the very least should have contacted JA to update him on the status. I will bet a cool million that never happened. Cooperation is a two way street.
     
  12. ynotdivein

    ynotdivein Retired WS Staff

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    RH, thank you for clarifying. Always good to see you here.

    As for the difference of opinion between the two parties in regard to their ability to work informally together... I am 100% a legal layperson, but what I am reading between the lines here is that the SA absolutely distrusts the defense to work in good faith in any informal system. (In fact, it's not clear to me that the defense will work in good faith in a very formal system either.) And having observed the defense team's machinations over the past 2+ years, this layperson can completely understand why the SA is fed up to the point of moving for contempt.
     
  13. Omachka

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    Hi Richard, it's good to see you here. Maybe I have it wrong but I thought that Baez wrote the email after Ashton called him asking why the deadline was missed. The email was therefore after the deadline had passed. If Ashton hadn't prodded him, there would have been no email I betcha. :innocent: I think the problem is that Baez is bound and determined to have a "Perry Mason" moment and if the judge won't allow it at trial, Baez will try it at the Frye hearing. I believe Ashton is having none of that and that's why he filed his Rule to Show Cause.
     
  14. MommaD

    MommaD The Stars Do Not Lie..People Lie

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    Purple Iris I just thought of something when you put about Baez and Cm talking on the phone since no records of visiting at jail.. I just wonder if CA is visiting Baez's law office much lately? CA and ICA are to chummy at court have to be in contact somehow... Since its her lawyer then I could see him doing this after all the other underhanded things he has pulled. and when CA and ICA do not make contact at court makes me wonder more. like guilt or something nahhh forgot neither feel guilt..
    sorry if o/t but have seen the phone call thing so much just had that thought and put it out there..

    Great job everyone and love reading all the posts..
     
  15. kaRN

    kaRN Verified Health Professional - Registered Nurse

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    JB is lead counsel so he's supposed to be leading his co-counsel, keeping them on track with deadlines etc. Problem is, he has ADD IMO. :)
     
  16. TimesPast

    TimesPast Member

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    bbm

    I agree, as per the motion from Mr Ashton
    http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26942318/detail.html

    2. having received nothing ... on Feb 18, 2011 (I) spoke to Mr Baez ....
    3. Mr Baez expressed some "confusion" as to the order
    4. Mr Baez followed with an e-mail to the court's judicial assistant (attached)

    Also - the beginning of the email says

    "Mr Ashton just asked me about my objections to Frye" confirming the email was written after the call from Mr Ashton.

    And to reword that email in regards to what Mr Ashton would have discussed .... Mr Ashton asked me about the specific issues that will be objected to in accordance with Frye.

    I certainly agree - Mr Baez is confused, not only about the very clear order from the Judge, but also as to what is meant by Frye.

    jmo
     
  17. zoey

    zoey Well-Known Member

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    Didn't HHJP talk about actually phoning in quesitons and such?---I thought the last hearing (perhaps another one that covered jb missing a deadline and failing to submit something)---he encouraged phone calls or something just to keep things movin along smoothly?--Seems like jb wants something to screw up every chance he gets!---
    Can anyone imagine him at that forensics conference if he can't even get the the little legal things correct???????:waitasec:
     
  18. Jomo

    Jomo New Member

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    I agree with others about the ball being dropped by the DREAM TEAM.

    I think that the only way to get this team ready for trial is if HHBPJ sanctions every single attorney on the team...Then you would finally see them work together to ensure that there are no more deadlines missed and the the trial proceeds on time and professionally.

    I vote for sanctioning them ALL!
     
  19. bunchy

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    Perhaps you shouldn't make public comments on a case that you're, admittedly, not following closely. Any chance of publicly stating that, having learned of all the missed deadlines by the defense, the state did what was right?
     
  20. Aedrys

    Aedrys If justice doesn't get you, karma will.

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    With this defense team, it's more like the blind leading the blind, or more accurately, the dumb leading the deaf. LOL.
     

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