Steven Avery: Guilty of Teresa Halbach's Murder? #2

Discussion in 'Netflix Series: Making A Murderer' started by bessie, Jan 14, 2016.

  1. Karinna

    Karinna Well-Known Member

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    Have you watched the 2nd season of the documentary? I was not convinced at all by the first season. Information in the 2nd season, however, certainly gave me pause to question the validity of guilt for either party.
     
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    There is no objectivity. The producers have an agenda and are only taking one side. It is like when you read Morris' book about Jeffrey Macdonald. He could make you question the obvious, because his side is all you read. Or the docu about Sayed right now, biased and propaganda.
     
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    JerseyGirl Staff Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    Steven Avery's attorney has filed a motion asking the circuit court to reverse his conviction for the 2005 murder of Teresa Halbach and order a new trial. The motion also requests a new judge to preside over the case.

    Kathleen Zellner filed the post-conviction relief motion March 11 in Manitowoc County. The case, which had been in the appeals court, was sent back to circuit court so Zellner could file this motion.

    No future hearings have been scheduled.

    Steven Avery's attorney requests new trial, new judge
     
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    Had to file a new motion, the second part of the docu is coming out.
     
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    The 2nd season is out.
     
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    UndiscoveredTruth Well-Known Member

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    Kathleen Zellner‏Verified account @ZellnerLaw 9h9 hours ago
    We reviewed the State's Response yesterday and it made us................SMILE.
    @lifeafterten @michellemalkin @Newsweek @RollingStone @guardian #MakingAMurderer2

    Kathleen Zellner‏Verified account @ZellnerLaw 42m42 minutes ago
    'Making a Murderer': Kathleen Zellner Responds to State of Wisconsin's Claim Steven Avery Should Not Have a New Trial ⁦@lifeafterten⁩ ⁦@Newsweek⁩ ⁦@michellemalkin#MakingAMurderer2

    'Making a Murderer': Kathleen Zellner Responds to State of Wisconsin's Claim Steven Avery Should Not Have a New Trial

    The State of Wisconsin doesn’t want to see Making a Murderer subject Steven Avery have a new trial, it revealed in a response to Avery filed Friday. His lawyer, Kathleen Zellner, commented on the 19-page response, which aimed to negate her arguments and the new evidence in support of Avery’s alleged innocence her team presented in a brief filed March 12.

    “The State is thumbing its nose at the appellate court once again,” Zellner told Newsweek on Tuesday. “That court specifically ordered that the merits of the alleged bone destruction be addressed. Rather than follow the court's directive, the State has constructed a convoluted procedural argument that defies logic or precedent.”

    'Making a Murderer' lawyer responds to Wisconsin's claim Steven Avery should not have a new trial
     
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    Thanks for sharing :) I think they get a chance to reply to the State's motion before the judge makes a ruling. I find it hard to believe that a hearing wouldn't be held to get to the bottom to what was and wasn't given to the family, but in this case, nothing surprises me LOL
     
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    YW, missy!! I hear ya.... nothing with this case surprises me either lol!! Ah well, I guess all we can do is wait and hope a hearing is held in the not too distant future. *fingers crossed tightly here*
     
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    Did you get an opportunity to watch it yet?
     
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    Kathleen Zellner‏Verified account @ZellnerLaw 7m7 minutes ago
    MAKING A MURDERER: Steven Avery asks court to reject state's "inconsistent" argument #MakingAMurderer2

    MAKING A MURDERER: Steven Avery asks court to reject state's "inconsistent" argument

    MANITOWOC COUNTY, Wis. (WBAY) - Steven Avery's attorneys have responded to the State of Wisconsin's request that a judge not grant Avery a new trial in the Teresa Halbach murder case.

    Avery is appealing his 2007 conviction for 1st Degree Intentional Homicide in the murder of Halbach. The case is the subject of Netflix series "Making A Murderer."

    The response was filed April 11 in Manitowoc County Court by Avery attorney Kathleen Zellner. Avery is trying to get a new trial based in part on the state's failure to alert Avery about bone fragments found in the Manitowoc County Gravel Pit that were handed over to the Halbach family.

    CLICK HERE to read the full response

    MAKING A MURDERER: Steven Avery asks court to reject state's "inconsistent" argument
     
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    I’m still not 100% sure he is guilty
     
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    What were the explosive new revelations revealed in the 2nd documentary?
    I googled and can not get a straight answer ... I'd rather get it here where I trust people!
     
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    hmmm I'm not sure? I have to be honest, I think I only made it to episode 7. Everything they were showing, those of us that have followed since MaM was released, I think we found that it was all stuff we knew, or at least that is how I felt.

    IMO MaM2 was good for those that didn't have the time to keep up or wanted an updated or aren't online in forums like us lol Of course it was from the Avery/Dassey perspective again though ;-)
     
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    It was 1/2 about Brandon's appeal process. But I thought it had a lot of good info to expand your knowledge and fill out the picture. Most notable: Blood spatter examination of TH's blood on RAV, illustrations of tracking dog paths and what they were interested in, an informative interview with Josh Radant, human bone fragments on Manitowoc Gravel Pit property, a test run of possible path TH took after parting with SA. Also, details on numerous sightings of a small greenish SUV, parked and driving.
     
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    How would you, or would you, refute the findings of the other scientists in the documentary (Part 2)? The blood spatter expert, for example? That portion didn't even require a reenactment. Anyone who has knowledge of basic physics could see that the blood couldn't have arrived on that door in the manner the state proposed.

    The odd places that blood didn't turn up since Steven was supposedly actively bleeding.

    There are so many things that stink in this case. Chain of custody is but one area of many.

    I was curious as to your thoughts and others' thoughts on the many issues raised in the documentary, Part 2.
     
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