Discussion in 'JonBenet Ramsey' started by Tricia, Dec 19, 2018.
that's what i thought he could have been released early and gone on to commit more crimes, JMO
I regret not speaking up about it. I should've done more than just throw the book out.
This case is was from the Northern District of NY Federal Court.
@Niner -- this isn't him, right? New York?
ETA: Never mind -- our person is David J. Hughes so not sure the same.
I really don't believe it IS him.... with the date of 2009 - thinking - not...
Can you access Federal court sites? I haven't had an luck!
@Niner -- this reminds me of Manzanares federal court case in Alaska.
In this case (super Dave), it was last March that scheduling order requested his (plea deal) Sentencing Memoranda by June 22 for his July 2, sentencing date and per the ROA, the memoranda is still outstanding and therefore not even a memo entry or continuance for new sentencing date noted in the ROA.
Thanks for that info @Seattle1 - re-doing my notes....
I'm following another case here, the death of a Santa Monica man by the name of Kris Anderson and in that case an interesting point was made that is the flip side of this same coin. The person who stands accused of the killing was reportedly abused as a child himself which might have made him hyper-vigilant when it comes to defending young girls from similar abuse. As a youth there is a news story from when he worked as a lifeguard where he physically removed (kicked out) a man from the pool who he had observed acting inappropriately (purposely bumping into) towards young girls. I believe he got fired for kicking the fellow out because it was beyond his authority as a lifeguard to do so.
In the Santa Monica incident that resulted in the death of Mr Anderson, the accused wrestled Mr Anderson to the ground and took his camera away because he stated he had been observing Mr Anderson taking pictures of young girls on the pier and the beach. It was obviously a trigger for him.
So in that case at least, the accused had reportedly been abused himself and rather than becoming an abuser- he became a protector of children to prevent abuse. I think it's an interesting contrast.
For State charges:
Cases heard by Fenster, David R.
Date/Time/Place Case Name/Type of Proceeding/Litigants (Attorney)
Friday, Oct. 9 State vs. Hughes, David
10:00 AM 1481-12-18 Rdcr/Criminal
Family/Criminal Courtroom 2 - Third Floor Change of Plea Hearing
Plaintiff, State of Vermont (Rosemary M. Kennedy)
Defendant, David Hughes (Mary Kay Lanthier)
Probation Officer, Jason Pare
Victim's Advocate, Naomi Ross
link: Court Calendar for Rutland Criminal Division
@Seattle1 - I know I asked before, but can you access the Federal court site for this case? TIA!
Friday, October 9th:
*Change of Plea Hearing (State Charges) (@ 10am ET) – VT - *David J. Hughes (aka SuperDave) (37) charged & arraigned (12/21/18) on 1 count of aggravated sexual assault of a victim less than 13 yrs old (Felony 1) & 1 count of lewd & lascivious conduct with a child (Felony 3). Hughes pleaded not guilty to both charges prior to his arrest on federal charges. Plead not guilty. Unsecured $5K appearance bond. Released. Rebooked on 12/27/18; in Federal custody.
Bond restrictions & trial information reference post #746 here:
Status hearing for State charges on 1/14/19. Federal charges will take precedence over State charges. State: Status conferencing hearing on 3/9/20 @ 4pm. 3/9/20: Status hearing change to Change of Plea hearing rescheduled for 4/7 @ 1pm. 4/3/20: Plea hearing on 4/7 has been moved to 6/2/20 due to coronavirus. 6/2/20 Update: Change of Plea hearing on 10/9/20.
*David J. Hughes (aka SuperDave) (37) - U.S. Attorney for the District of Vermont had Hughes arrested (12/27/18), charged (1/3/19), indicted & arraigned (1/10/19) with 1 count of production of child pornography & 1 count of possession of child pornography (Federal charges). Plead not guilty. Held without bond.
Hughes was arrested & made his initial appearance to answer the complaint in federal court on 12/27/18. At the Jan. 2, 2019 hearing on the government’s motion for pretrial detention, U.S. Magistrate Judge John M. Conroy granted the motion & ordered Hughes detained without bail pending trial.
Court information from 1/2/19 thru 2/18/20 reference post #849 here:
3/4/20 Update: Hughes agreed to plead guilty to the count of child pornography. According to a plea agreement filed in the case, Hughes & the government have agreed to a sentence of 96 months (8 years) with a minimum term of five years of supervision after his release. As part of the agreement reached on Wednesday, Hughes must plead guilty to the Rutland County charges before his sentencing in federal court which is scheduled for July 2. Hughes had been expected to change his plea on March 9 but the local agreement is still being worked out. Any sentence from the state is expected to be served at the same time as the federal prison sentence. Plea entered: guilty as to Count 3 of the Indictment. Court makes findings and accepts the guilty plea.
What a slug he is. Eight years with 5 years superv doesn't seem like enough.
Many thanks, niner, for giving us all the information about these cases.
Any word on the State charges plea?
@Seattle1 - any changes on the Federal charges? And any news on what happened at the plea hearing?
There are several regular posters here that I am “put off” by and find their posts to be self serving and often long winded and grandiose. Not to mention incessant mentions of child sexual abuse ad nauseum.
If they were later found to be persons of an unsavory or even criminal bent, it would not especially surprise me, but prior to any damning and concrete evidence to support my “unease”, I would be wrong to assume my “unease” was a reason to report said members.
tl/dr: There are a lot of totally suspect posters on any forum dealing with crime and sometimes the totally innocent are more offensive posters than are the guilty.
Sentencing reset for 11/5/2020 at 10:00 AM
CM/ECF - U.S. District Court - Vermont (LIVE)-login
U.S. District Court
District of Vermont (Rutland)
CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 5:19-cr-00001-gwc All Defendants
Case title: USA v. Hughes
Magistrate judge case number: 2:18-mj-00171-jmc
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Date Filed # Docket Text
10/15/2020 50 REVISED NOTICE OF HEARING as to David Hughes: Sentencing reset for 11/5/2020 at 10:00 AM in Rutland Courtroom before Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford. (pjl) (Entered: 10/15/2020)
10/15/2020 51 AMENDED PROCEDURAL AND SCHEDULING ORDER as to David Hughes: Sentencing Memoranda are due by 10/26/2020. Sentencing reset for 11/5/2020 at 10:00 AM in Rutland Courtroom before Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford. Signed by Chief Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford on 10/15/2020. (pjl) (Entered: 10/15/2020)
It really isn't a stark contrast for the majority. It's more of the norm when it comes to adults who were abused as children.
Through the years I've seen many assume that those who were sexually abused or abused in other forms in their childhood will go on to be abusers in adulthood.
That is simply not true. The vast majority never harm a child or anyone for that matter.
In fact it is as you have posted. Instead of being abusers the vast majority of abused children go on to be protectors of children with countless being strong advocates for children.
As a childhood abuse survivor myself I do admit that I was overly protective of our five children or aka helicopter parents as we are referred to by some. It took years for me to finally 'breathe.' I know I had to make our children miserable at times as I was.
I'm not alone by any means who are/were overly protective. I did realize though I had to let our children be children without me hovering over them every moment.
I always trusted them knowing they were taught to have good judgement when we weren't around. They knew to stay together, and be aware of those around them even when out playing in our safe neighborhood.
It did take me a long time to let go without hovering over them worrying about them. All were very socially friendly children, and still are as adults with children of their own now.
I realized I was harming them in a different way by restricting their growth, and freedom. Of course we still had rules for them to follow, and we learned to trust them to do the right thing, and they did.
The older they became they showed us they were trustworthy in not only protecting themselves, but their siblings as well.
As far as Hughes, from the time he joined here he made me extremely uncomfortable. I felt way back even then he had his own deep dark secrets so I wasn't surprised like most were when his true self was finally exposed when he was arrested.
Maybe it's a sixth sense for those who were sexually abused as a child, but what he posted, and his remarks on how he worded his posts sent chills up my spine leaving me with feelings that something wasn't right about Hughes.
He seemed way too fixated on posting about the sexual aspect of a precious murdered little girl when there were many other aspects to discuss in JBs case.
The day I saw he had posted that JB may have liked being sexually assaulted was the day I left JBs forum. It made me so repulsed,and literally nauseated. I do think it's one of the most vulgar, offensive post ever written here about a murdered child victim.
However; once he was finally exposed as a pedophile it became clear why he posted it because it was exactly what a pedophile would say about their defenseless young victims they prey upon.
LTNS my friend!
Also it gave him the perfect platform to relive, and relate to others what was truly in his deep twisted deviant mind.
Imo, the only reason he was so obsessed with JB is she would have been the perfect victim for him to prey upon.
Since she was no longer living I think he had sexual fantasies about JB, and wish he had had the opportunity to sexually assault her. Remember he stressed to all that sexually assaulted children may have liked it.
That statement alone should have thrown up huge red flags for it's exactly the profile of a pedophile. They believe the preyed upon children really like or love their pedophile predator, and being defiled by them. Ugh.
It truly shows what perverted sickos they all are. Even when gravely harming children they refuse to place blame on themselves.
How many times have we read where a pedophile said after sexually abusing a small defenseless child 'she or he came on to me' or the victims wanted it?
As we know pedophiles are masters at manipulation, and telling grandiose pathological lies in order to not only deceive their innocent victims, but to deceive adults as well.
I stopped reading JBs forum many years ago because of Hughes' narcissistic, arrogant. condescending, overbearing attitude, and feeling very uncomfortable even reading what he posted.
But it does give us a glimpse at least into how this pedophile's mind worked, and what subject excited him the most in JBs case.
Now we know why. Now we know why he seemed to be a very knowledgeable expert on pedophiles, and child sex abuse.
Amazon.ca:Customer reviews: An Angel Betrayed: How Wealth, Power and Corruption Destroyed the JonBenet Ramsey Murder Investigation Contact and Publish Dav
Recently there were a few reviews mentioning the charges against DH, but seems they have now been removed.
What will happen when DH is convicted.
Can the book be removed from circulation?