Suspect #1: Dellen Millard *Charged* 1st Deg Murder 15 May 2013 #2

[Pink Panther]

Your second link is Leviticus 19, not Leviticus 1:10-19

ETA: the first link ^^ is to Proverbs. Oh Panther, we need a rest my friend. I keep swearing i'll take time off, but hasn't happened yet. Maybe tomorrow, LOL.

PS: Ya don't think the bible I have here would have it do ya? Some days I just can't see the forest for the trees.

Anyhoo ... Leviticus 1 (too much for me to type) only goes 1-17, but it is all about burnt offerings and dismembering things

Yes. I know...

 

[redheadedgal]

we all know there are two reasons why people kill. Love or money.

untrue. other reasons include:

terrorism (tsarnev brothers, eric harris and dylan klebold)
self defense (george zimmerman)
infamy/attention-seeking behavior (james holmes?)
insanity (vince li)
revenge (adam lanza?)

 

[catboomer]

...and others that commit crimes are sociopaths and can appear in court humble, cool and collected.

http://thearmchairprofiler.wordpress.com/tag/dellen-millard/

 

[Blomquist]

untrue. other reasons include:

terrorism (tsarnev brothers, eric harris and dylan klebold) ( IMO I believe there is more to such stories )
self defense (george zimmerman) Really agree with this one (although the ability to protect oneself is diminishing IMO )
infamy/attention-seeking behavior (james holmes?) ( I see more to this case also than meets the eye JMO ) and I don't fully believe this is proven as a reason to kill.
insanity (vince li) this is a good one IMO and most definitely is viable IMO although makes ones skin crawl at the thought of how many insane people are actually out there and in what positions....going unnoticed.
revenge (adam lanza?)yes this is very accurate... except I don't believe the cited 'murderer'/'case' is all it seems JMO.

We shouldn't forget the following reasons:

Power/Control ( eg.coups )
To silence someone permanently
Hatred ( oppression)

 

[Archangel7]

untrue. other reasons include:

terrorism (tsarnev brothers, eric harris and dylan klebold)
self defense (george zimmerman)
infamy/attention-seeking behavior (james holmes?)
insanity (vince li)
revenge (adam lanza?)

Good list, here is a link to a Correctional Services Canada research brief on murder motives.
In Canada, it distills down to just three overarching motives.
1. Expressive.....anger or desire/intent to harm
2. Instrumental.....killer wants something, sex, revenge, money
3. Gang related.....turf, initiation

http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/text/rsrch/briefs/b12/b12e-eng.shtml

 

[bessie]

:seeya: No link, no post. And...no copy and paste from social media.

Those particular tweets were declared off limits ages ago. We don't know the identity of the tweeter, so there's no way to verify the tweets are relevant. If anyone has information to the contrary, then please contact the mods.

:tyou:

Bumping my post from yesterday.

 

[matou]

Mr. Millard’s lawyer, Deepak Paradkar, said his jailed client is a “philosopher” who now spends 30 minutes outside in a cage each day and has been reading up on the law ahead of trial.

Philosopher? Really? I guess there's lots of time to philosophize when you don't have to work for a living and get to travel all over the world on a whim.

Read all you want, philosopher. JMO

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...rge-in-mysterious-bosma-case/article12757899/

 

[matou]

It remains unclear how Mr. Smich and Mr. Millard know each other, although a photograph has emerged of the pair outside Mr. Smich’s Oakville home. Mr. Millard’s Internet gaming profile may reveal another link: One of his friends on Steam is a user with an uncommon name spelled almost exactly like Mr. Smich’s co-accused in the overpass incident. (The man’s identity is protected by a publication ban in relation to Mr. Smich’s murder charge.)

Interesting, although we have already found this link on Steam here but not the ban on this guy's name.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...rge-in-mysterious-bosma-case/article12757899/

 

[Archangel7]

where would the polytechnique massacre fit in?

École Polytechnique massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


where would vince li fit in?

Murder of Tim McLean - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to what I read in the link I listed it considers anti social personality disorders/mental under Expressive.
For example, anger, revenge, due to things like child abuse or drug/alcohol disorder.

Marc Lepine was apparently expressing his anger. His dad reportedly had a problem with women. He was likely raised that way and expressed it.

Vince Li, apparently was very expressive and depending on who you believe schizo and

It is an interesting research paper based on actual inmate intakes I believe.
MOO

 

[Eldee]

I find it interesting to note that 16 is the youngest age you can fly an engine powered plane in Canada. Yet, DM made flight history at age 14 by flying both an airplane and a helicopter in the same day. There are 7 exams to write and a medical exam ( you have to be 16 for the medical exam ) in order to obtain your pilots license.
I guess it gets easier to break the law when both your grand father and father show a complete disregard for the law and allow you to break it.

http://www.therecord.com/sports-sto...osma-disappearance-made-flying-history-at-14/

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_licensing_in_Canada"]Pilot licensing in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

It is akin to a parent giving the car keys to his 14 year old and saying take her out for a spin son.

I wonder what MB thought about grandpa and dad allowing her son to solo a plane at 14 without the proper license. Maybe that was around the time she started giving up on having any say about raising her son.
Just my opinion.
Just trying to delve into DM's personality a little bit here.

 

[lanman]

I find it interesting to note that 16 is the youngest age you can fly an engine powered plane in Canada. Yet, DM made flight history at age 14 by flying both an airplane and a helicopter in the same day. There are 7 exams to write and a medical exam ( you have to be 16 for the medical exam ) in order to obtain your pilots license.
I guess it gets easier to break the law when both your grand father and father show a complete disregard for the law and allow you to break it.

http://www.therecord.com/sports-sto...osma-disappearance-made-flying-history-at-14/

Pilot licensing in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is akin to a parent giving the car keys to his 14 year old and saying take her out for a spin son.

I wonder what MB thought about grandpa and dad allowing her son to solo a plane at 14 without the proper license. Maybe that was around the time she started giving up on having any say about raising her son.
Just my opinion.
Just trying to delve into DM's personality a little bit here.

According to Transport Canada, the minimum age for a Student Pilot Permit is 14.

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The following is a list of permits and licences issued in Canada and the minimum age requirement:

Student Pilot Permit 14

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/standards/general-personnel-gen-477.htm

 

[Eldee]

OK but does that mean you can fly solo? I read ( please correct me if I am wrong ) that you could not fly solo until 16.

 

[flipflop]

According to Transport Canada, the minimum age for a Student Pilot Permit is 14.

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The following is a list of permits and licences issued in Canada and the minimum age requirement:

Student Pilot Permit 14

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/standards/general-personnel-gen-477.htm

So someone can go and apply for a student permit and fly on the same day?

On his 14th birthday, Millard became the youngest Canadian to pilot solo both a helicopter and an airplane on the same day

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/05/13/f-dellen-millard-profile-bosma-case.html

wow, glad I don't live near an airport!

 

[lanman]

OK but does that mean you can fly solo? I read ( please correct me if I am wrong ) that you could not fly solo until 16.

Nothing here about having to wait until you are 16

(e) Experience and Skill

Once the Citizenship, Age, Medical, Fitness and Knowledge requirements have been met and evidence thereof presented to an Authorized Person, a Student Pilot Permit in the category applied for shall be issued. The instructor shall be responsible for ensuring that the applicant has reached a satisfactory standard of experience and skill to complete solo flight before authorizing the first solo flight.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/regserv/cars/part4-standards-421-1086.htm#421_19

 

[flipflop]

Nothing here about having to wait until you are 16

(e) Experience and Skill

Once the Citizenship, Age, Medical, Fitness and Knowledge requirements have been met and evidence thereof presented to an Authorized Person, a Student Pilot Permit in the category applied for shall be issued. The instructor shall be responsible for ensuring that the applicant has reached a satisfactory standard of experience and skill to complete solo flight before authorizing the first solo flight.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/regserv/cars/part4-standards-421-1086.htm#421_19

Pilots can begin training at any age and can solo balloons and gliders at age 14, powered aircraft at age 16
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Pilot_Licence"]Private pilot licence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[expat cdn]

Minimum age for helicopter is 16 years.

http://www.nationalhelicopters.com/flight_training_private.php

 

[Alethea Dice]

OK but does that mean you can fly solo? I read ( please correct me if I am wrong ) that you could not fly solo until 16.

As long as you're a Canadian citizen, have done the training and turned 14 years of age, you can do your solo for a Recreational or Private Pilot permit.

http://www.windsorflyingclub.com/FlightTraining.aspx

 

[Alethea Dice]

Minimum age for helicopter is 16 years.

http://www.nationalhelicopters.com/flight_training_private.php

From the Transport Canada website:

DIVISION III - STUDENT PILOT PERMITS

421.19 Student Pilot Permit - Requirements

(1) The Student Pilot Permit is issued in the following categories: gyroplane, ultra-light aeroplane, glider, balloon, aeroplane and helicopter.

(2) Requirements for Issue of a Student Pilot Permit

An applicant for a Student Pilot Permit shall meet the following requirements:

(a) Citizenship

Confirmation of citizenship shall be provided in accordance with subsection 421.06(1).

(b) Age

(i) Confirmation of age shall be provided in accordance with subsection 421.06(2).

(ii) An applicant shall be a minimum of fourteen years of age for all aircraft categories of permits.

(e) Experience and Skill

Once the Citizenship, Age, Medical, Fitness and Knowledge requirements have been met and evidence thereof presented to an Authorized Person, a Student Pilot Permit in the category applied for shall be issued. The instructor shall be responsible for ensuring that the applicant has reached a satisfactory standard of experience and skill to complete solo flight before authorizing the first solo flight.
(amended 1998/03/23; previous version)

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/regserv/cars/part4-standards-421-1086.htm#421_19

 

[lanman]

Not sure if this has been posted before. A short video of DM doing his helicopter solo.

http://www.680news.com/2013/05/13/video-accused-dellen-millard-flying-helicopter-at-age-14/

 

[MamaDukes]

There was something online (maybe on one of the aviation boards) about how Carl pulled some strings to allow Dellen to make the flights and attain the record, despite his youth.