Ted Bundy - Serial Killer - 1974-1978

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  1. Krissy31

    Krissy31 New Member

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    I'm not sure either .but if it's a real worst one. Why not to killed him than to have and get more victims .
     


  2. Shanethailand

    Shanethailand New Member

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    Can't get over on he's face,what a **** person I don't even see on his face if he's regreting of not. *******
     
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  3. Hazel85

    Hazel85 New Member

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    I can't imagine what he did . He killed many women . For me much better to killed him too . His a dangerous man .
     
  4. JezreelJay666

    JezreelJay666 New Member

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    I cannot imagine the violence he inflicted on the victims, so sad that innocent people die simply because of criminals like him.
     
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  5. Catmommy

    Catmommy I see more than I say

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    There was a time that I thought a lot could've been learned from keeping Ted Bundy alive and studying him. Bundy was such a narcissist though, as well as a consummate liar and mind game player, that it's unlikely he could have given any insight on any killer except himself. We already knew enough about him to know that he deserved the death penalty many times over. Really a shame he could only be executed once, in my opinion only of course.
     
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  6. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    He was a dangerous psychopath, skilled at manipulation. Society is safer with him dead.
     
  7. illyana

    illyana Active Member

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    Did anyone else read this monstrosity of an article on Believer about Ted Bundy? It's practically a love letter to a serial killer, while attacking Dr. Robert Hare and anyone who is in favor of the death penalty - as if Bundy twice escaping prison to rape and murder again wasn't argument enough for why people like that have to die for the public good.

    I don't mind if someone doesn't believe in the death penalty, but this article is not about that. It's a whitewash of Bundy. It's an incredibly biased, victim-hating, pro-normalization of criminal behavior. The author is so biased, so unscientific, and so intellectually dishonest that her only sources for arguing that psychopathy doesn't exist and that Ted should've been diagnosed as bipolar are ... defense attorneys.

    It's one of the most morally disgusting and repugnant articles I've ever read. According to this author, serial rapists and killers just need a little therapy and they won't do it again. Words fail me at the idiocy, the naivete, and the moral worthlessness of this vile line of thinking.

    The End of Evil - Believer Magazine
     
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  8. Kell1

    Kell1 Verified law enforcement

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    You'll always get those who side with the condemned, no matter how horrible their actions that put them on death row is .

    I see certain well known inmates on a pretty regular basis, one is a serial killer, he gets thousands of fan letters from people who are serial killer buffs, people with dark personalities, women who have a romantic interest in them for whatever reason, often its Altruistic "I can save him/her" , you have men who contact female inmates simply because they find them attractive (For EX Susan Smith already has a plethora of men anxiously awaiting her release due to her sexual exploits on the inside and she has managed to make herself look much more attractive than when she went in)

    In some cases you get Hybristophiles who are individuals that are sexually aroused by other peoples violent acts, and even worse, people who consider themselves fledgling serial killers .

    To anyone with even a basic moral compass, it makes no sense, ...until you meet these individuals

    Then its like the "a ha !" joke in the movie coming to America

    Barring those who simply find Serial (murder rape etc..) interesting AKA "buffs" , or those who are studying it for academic reasons, the rest are EXACTLY what you think they are .

    Sad, lonely, pathetic, underachievers, that may or may not have a psychological disorder, or even full blown mental illness.

    When you meet them its both shocking ,but you get this "OK now I get it " kind of feeling.

    I could post one here but it was a long conversation (and I felt like I needed a drink after)

    Many oppose the death penalty, and I understand their stance ( I personally do not oppose it and would like to see it used more often) , but anytime some monster is set to be ended, you have a bunch of sympathizers outside the prison, crying and protesting the death penalty
     
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  9. illyana

    illyana Active Member

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    Thank you for your reply, so I don't feel alone in thinking about justice for the victims first. This line of thinking is just a mental illness, and maybe we need laws that whenever a single person tries to have romantic relations with a convicted killer they get mandatory therapy instead.
     
  10. Kell1

    Kell1 Verified law enforcement

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    Not always mental illness as much as a personality disorder, which the system is NOT set up to handle.

    They seem to fall into 3 categories , though lke all behavior they blur into each other ,these are all my observations and not official

    1) Altruistic -People who seriously feel they can change even the worst hardened deviant, this is usually a self serving mechanism, often we find they have some form of psychological issue .

    2) Associative popularity- people who seek attention by being associated with the worst of the worst, it gives them an identity even if its unpopular, its something . Instead of fame, they seek out infamy, These are the people who write killers all over the country, they'they'll become pen pals , they'll form a type of friendship with them, sometimes they say its to "study" these types , but its usually more fanfare , and a source of being affiliated with someone infamous . These may become a romantic interest over time .

    3) The Hybristophilic- Those who derive sexual arousal from the violent acts of others , as sick as that sounds they do exist . I recall a conversation with one who was jealous of the individual John Gacy tried to rape in prison while he was interviewing him for a book.
     
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  11. Meteor

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    Hi all nice to be back once more.
    Been studying Ted Bundy and Gary Ridgeway for a while especially the former. It was interesting listening to Bundy's last ever interview before he was executed in which he blamed hardcore pornography for twisting his mind. He claims that he came from a good Christian home and had a very good upbringing which is in conflict with witness statements that his home was a living hell in which his grandfather was actually his father. It is also reported that his grandfather was extremely violent and abusive towards his wife and children.
    Usually in other cases I've studied such as Fred West and Ian Brady you find that they themselves were victims of sexual abuse before they turned into serial killers and I just wondered if members believe Bundy when he blames pornography for his fate or do you believe like other writers claim, that he too suffered abuse and is hiding behind it?
     
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  12. Kell1

    Kell1 Verified law enforcement

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    Ted came from anything BUT a normal upbringing , there are rumors (with some evidence to support) that Ted was actually the son of his own grandfather, hence why his mother was sent away to a home for unwed mothers in Vermont.

    He lived only a mile from where I sit now , from birth until the age of 4, Then at the behest of family members, some say it was for employment purposes, some say it was to escape her father....he and his mother very suddenly went to live with other relatives, in Tacoma.

    There are to this day . abundant rumors, of physical , psychological and possibly even sexual abuse at the hands of his grandfather (possibly his father) , who was known to be a violent alcoholic as well.

    Ted exhibited red flag bizarre behavior almost from the time he could speak , he had a fascination with violence, and with holding people captive, as a child he would dig "tiger traps" in the woods with the idea of catching people in them , some equipped with sharpened stakes in the bottom to impale whomever stepped on them .

    In one instance he threatened his cousin with a knife then upin being reprimanded, tormented her daily by putting knives under the girls pillow

    Ted had an arrogance about him that didnt go unnoticed, also was a glaring lack of friends, and a preference to be alone, throughout his life

    Violent pornography was not to blame for his actions, that was one of his many excuses, one thing we see with Violent criminal sexual psychopaths , is a genetic predisposition toward the disorder, and some form of abuse to exacerbate the underlying feelings. Add into the mix a period of isolation, where their fantasies can mature unabated, you have a fledgling monster

    To understand Ted all you have to do is consider this

    When Ted was in custody , he decided to start talking , the media was also at the same time interviewing Elanor (his mother) at the same time as other agents were questioning him in prison

    When her son confessed to at least 30 as many as 50 unsolved, murders across, the US they told her right there ...

    Elanor Cowell, exhaled deeply turned with no emotion, and asked the investigators if they wanted pie.
     
  13. Meteor

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    Thanks for your reply. I can equate to everything you're saying.
     
  14. Kell1

    Kell1 Verified law enforcement

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    Most Serial Killers (not all) have had bad upbringings, some have and the narrative is that they had a "normal" upbringing but in most cases if you dig a little , you uncover a lot of trauma, and a TON of missed red flags
     

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