The Abduction and Captivity of KB

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  1. tlcya

    tlcya Old and Tired Websleuth

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    A place to discuss the crimes committed against KB [name redacted]

    Because this victim was held for months and is lucky to be alive, we have opted not to use her full name. Please refer to this young woman by her initials.
     


  2. Steleheart

    Steleheart WS Liaison Staff Member WS Liason

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    Thank you.

    I think what's important about the abduction and captivity is how TK was using her for house cleaning and made the job that day a heavier job cleaning brush and knew she would bring CDC to help so that he could eliminate him. I feel that he had a fixation on KB and needed to eliminate CDC.

    MOO
     
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  3. tlcya

    tlcya Old and Tired Websleuth

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    I am very curious to learn more about KB's time while being held. Not out of any looky loo sense wanting all the detail, but like most, I am curious about whether she was specifically targetted because she fits a victim "type" of his, or was the opportunity what drove this crime.

    Did he eventually intend to kill her?

    Did he abduct and hold any other women?

    Like many I want to understand
     
  4. mocity

    mocity Verified family -Cheryl Henry & Andy Atkinson case

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    I too am curious why he would hold her for two whole months when he obviously didn't have a problem killing people. Seems like he would have killed her just to save himself at some point. Horrible to say I know.
     
  5. MDATCA

    MDATCA Well-Known Member

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    IMO from the little that has come out that he fed her and spent time with her. I am assuming that physically she was fairly healthy and no major injuries as they did not keep her in the hospital for very long. I think he has/had feelings for her. She probably played along making him think they had an emotional bond for self preservation. He was still uncertain and the whole she was reported missing made it that he had to keep her restrained and hidden. Those very feelings may be why he had to kill CDC. Maybe he thought with him out of the way she would fall for him.
     
  6. maureen718

    maureen718 Well-Known Member

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    It's possible that he was not necessarily keeping her alive but that his activities were ramping up and he hadn't yet indulged in behaviors that caused death yet. His post hashtag 'thats gonna hurt in the morning' in my opinion refers to someone else's pain not his own.
     
  7. stillwatersc

    stillwatersc Well-Known Member

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    http://www.goupstate.com/news/20161107/superbike-widow-reward-money-should-go-to-kala-brown

    SuperBike Widow - Reward money should go to KB

     
  8. granola

    granola Member

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    I'm curious as to why he kept her chained in a shipping container when he had a lot of other choices available. Like he feeds her and lets her walk around sometimes with him, but then, he also locks her up tight in a metal box in the heat. Was he surprised she lived? I'm so confused about the why of keeping a captive.

    I wonder if this is the first time he held someone captive -- escalating behavior?
     
  9. mocity

    mocity Verified family -Cheryl Henry & Andy Atkinson case

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    Highs look to be in the 70's during her final week there. However locked in a airtight container.... maybe you are right and he expected she would die. During his first kidnapping case he raped the girl so I expect that was his motivation here but who knows. He is obviously just crazy killing CDC and the 4 in 2003 with no sexual motivation.
     
  10. skibaboo

    skibaboo Mrs Map

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    Not sure if this is the right place for this but here goes

    Sheriff Wright talks about investigation on 1063 WORD

    Sheriff Chuck Wright was a guest this morning on the Tara show on 1063 WORD. Wright said KB and Charles Carver could have been involved in some illegal activity but would not elaborate
     
  11. Elle*Bee

    Elle*Bee We're all just stories in the end.

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    Wow. I don't understand why it's necessary for him to drop this tidbit if he isn't going to elaborate. I suppose if it's indeed true, it'll come out eventually.
     
  12. tlcya

    tlcya Old and Tired Websleuth

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    first of all, both of these people had some involvement in um other than legal activities . . .

    second audio file at the link

    http://www.1063word.com/pages/22928266.php?contentType=4&contentId=18988985

    said during his answer to the questions about why it took so long to search the property if the phone was pinging there for two days after they were last seen.

    Also said that reports have been misleading, that the pings were from the general area and were not specific to that property. That plus other leads were what caused them to obtain search warrants.

    You need evidence and proof. I would like to do it faster than the law allows but I have to follow the laws.

    After the phone pinged in the Woodruff area then we eventually learned TK had property down there.

    [paraphrased]
     
  13. x_driven_x

    x_driven_x New Member

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    In addition to natural self-preservation instincts, KB may have had experience in BDSM roleplay that possibly could have allowed her to play a role in a convincing enough way to help keep her alive and satisfy TKs desires to be in control enough to keep her alive for the time being. Perhaps that's a stretch, but I see it as a highly plausible reason he kept her alive for so long without "too much" bodily harm, and I use those words very loosely.

    KB at one point posted a question about becoming a webcam model. I don't think it's a far stretch that TK could have offered money for something sexual in nature; maybe not sex directly, just in the same general concept, and lured them to the property under that guise. That would also be a reason they didn't tell anyone specifically where they were going, if true. Perhaps some of that kind of activity could be considered illegal, but who knows. All speculation at this point.

    Perhaps they were invited to help clear underbrush, but that would see strange when TK has his neighbors help with that sort of thing, and KB would probably not be in such help for that, and TKs place is an hour's drive or so from their apartment.

    More will come out for the trial, I'm sure.
     
  14. soanyway

    soanyway Active Member

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    I agree that he was fixed on KB and IMO, TK brought CDC in on this job to eliminate the one person who would know KB's whereabouts when she became missing. Knowing that as a couple, they likely shared information that her family/friends may not have known, he needed to cover his tracks. Not only was CDC dispensable to TK, he just knew too much. TK may have felt that it was the perfect ruse as it could appear the couple had just ran off together. But IMO, other victims would likely have been single women who lived alone, smaller circle of groups, maybe even estranged from their families who would make easier targets.


     
  15. Valkyrii

    Valkyrii Well-Known Member

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    I wish the sheriff hadn't mentioned illegal activities if he wasn't going to elaborate. It's just going to get people stirred up and speculating and I'm sure the victim blamers will start popping out of the woodwork on social media. What KB endured is beyond suffering punishment. Short of pedophilia, rape or murder, I can think of almost nothing that would justify bringing attention to anything she and CDC might have been involved in outside of trial testimony.
     
  16. kodi

    kodi Well-Known Member

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    Keeping her captive and in those living conditions could be exactly what he was after. I didn't get a chance to look at his "other" profile before it was removed, so I don't have any idea what he had listed as far as what he was searching for, but having someone enslaved could have been his ultimate goal. It also must be noted that whatever he may have down could have only been partial truths while keeping his most sadistic desires under lock and key.

    I will tread lightly here...I do NOT believe KB consented to this, however, it's not unheard of for consenting adults in the BDSM community to practice this. The are many layers to this community and there are consenting adults within it that desire scenarios like this for many different reasons.

    Like you all, I am curious to hear more details to gain a better understanding of how and why this transpired and to get a clearer picture of TK. I will not be surprised if we find out there have been others he has previously had in this exact situation.

    You think what's been discovered so far online is revealing, wait until forensics can dig into his computer - that is where we really find out who this guy is.

    All JMO and all that jazz.


    My thoughts and prayers are with KB as she learns to live with this new normal that is her world now.




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  17. TarainVA

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    Agreed. I know I for one don't believe the brush clearing story, and I expect by now LE doesn't either if they ever did. For starters, the abduction happening in the afternoon doesn't line up with what we know. LE previously reported C was caught on camera leaving work at 5:30PM on 8/31 and that was last contact. No calling into work he wouldn't be there the next day. I surmise they went there the evening of 8/31 or early a.m. 9/1. K wasn't returning calls that afternoon but could have just been ignoring people especially if she was on webcam or just busy. There is a reason friends and family who were in close contact didn't know what they were doing the next day.

    No matter what it was. No one deserves what she and he endured.

     
  18. stillwatersc

    stillwatersc Well-Known Member

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    Illegal activities could have been doing under the table cash only cleaning jobs or recreational drug use.
     
  19. tlcya

    tlcya Old and Tired Websleuth

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    I agree, without knowing what the sheriff was dancing around I am not giving it much play into my theorizing. Regardless, no matter what the sheriff turns out to be referencing with that cryptic statement, what happened to this couple was horrific and KB paid a hell of a price for going to the property. Not to mention the ultimate price CDC paid.

    I am waiting for more facts.
     
  20. kodi

    kodi Well-Known Member

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    Good morning, everyone. I just wanted to expand a bit on my previous post.

    TK was no doubt a predator. I would bet money there were whispered warnings amongst members of the BDSM community that something was off about him.

    The cryptic information LE is giving reminds me of the initial days of when HA was kidnapped by a family friend after he killed her mom and brother. I feel they know a LOT more than what they are releasing.

    All JMO
     

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