The Asian Male - UP9355

Discussion in 'LISK Unidentified Victims' started by bessie, Apr 5, 2011.

  1. bessie

    bessie Verified Insider

    Messages:
    31,761
    Likes Received:
    1,153
    Trophy Points:
    113
    [​IMG]
    The Asian Male
    Namus UP #9355

    Ocean Parkway
    Gilgo Beach
    Nassau County, NY

    4 April 2011

    Skeletal remains of an Asian Male were recovered in the vicinity of Ocean Pkwy, Gilgo Beach, NY. The remains are estimated to have been there more than 5 yrs.

    "The male victim was 5-feet-6-inches and was missing both the top and bottom molars and one of his top front teeth. Investigators determined that he was wearing women's' clothes when he died between five and 10 years ago, Dormer said." (CNN)

    ME/C Case Number: 11-155468
    Suffolk County, New York
    17 to 23 year old Asian Male

    Est. post mortem interval - 5 years
    Probable year of death - 0-2006

    • The decedent may have had a musculoskeletal disorder that affected his gait.
    • Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton

    Namus UP #9355

    Newsday Map

    Shadowraith's Map
     


  2. stillwatersc

    stillwatersc Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,627
    Likes Received:
    859
    Trophy Points:
    113
    http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/05/10/linking-the-manorville-and-gilgo-homicides/
    One, police have confirmed is an Asian male in his late teens or early 20s.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/10/new-york-long-island-murders
    The third, potentially separate discovery was of an Asian man, referred to as John Doe no 8, who met a "violent" death. His body was found close to that of the dismembered women, but there is no evidence to connect them.

    I just read that the Asian man died violently but in a significantly different manner than the women - but cannot find that information now.
     
  3. kemo

    kemo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,624
    Likes Received:
    922
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There are very few Asian males reported missing in the North-East US. Yim Tsui http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tsui_yim.html, who disappeared from Hyde Park LI in 1998 is the one I could find that fits the description. The others I could identify were older and lived further away. No positive id has yet been made.
    Yim Tsui was a 20 year old Student at SUNY Stony Brook who lived in Hyde Park LI.
    Very little information was available on the Missing Persons sites or otherwise available on the web. This is unusual. Usually, the disappearance of a young person from a Middle Class generates more media attention and a lot of information is available. I'm guessing that lack of media attention means lack of law enforcement attention as well.
     
    madamx likes this.
  4. kemo

    kemo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,624
    Likes Received:
    922
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There are very few Asian males reported missing in the North-East US. Yim Tsui http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tsui_yim.html, who disappeared from Hyde Park LI in 1998 is the one I could find that fits the description. The others I could identify were older and lived further away. No positive id has yet been made.
    Yim Tsui was a 20 year old Student at SUNY Stony Brook who lived in Hyde Park LI.
    Very little information was available on the Missing Persons sites or otherwise available on the web. This is unusual. Usually, the disappearance of a young person from a Middle Class generates more media attention and a lot of information is available. I'm guessing that lack of media attention means lack of law enforcement attention as well.
     
  5. Redbird

    Redbird New Member

    Messages:
    1,346
    Likes Received:
    36
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Wonder if he was in the wrong place at the wrong time?
     
  6. future criminologist

    future criminologist Active Member

    Messages:
    1,185
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Do we know approximately how long the John Doe has been there? Has LE released that info? It's hard to do any digging without a time frame of disappearance to look at. :-(
     
  7. silversurvivor

    silversurvivor Active Member

    Messages:
    484
    Likes Received:
    134
    Trophy Points:
    43
    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/long_island&id=8122129

    HAUPPAUGE, N.Y. (WABC) -- Could the eighth body found be that of Stony Brook student Jimmy Tsui?

    Kam Wai Tsui lives every day with the grief and the devastating uncertainty of what happened to her youngest son, Jimmy.

    The 20-year-old Stony Brook student vanished without a trace in August of 1998.



    "She has given up on it, she just wants to know if he's alive or not alive," a translator said for Tsui.

    Now, investigative sources tell Eyewitness News they're examining a possible link between Tsui and so-called John Doe number eight. One of the skeletons uncovered this spring along ocean parkway.
     
    madamx likes this.
  8. silversurvivor

    silversurvivor Active Member

    Messages:
    484
    Likes Received:
    134
    Trophy Points:
    43
    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/long_island&id=8122129

    HAUPPAUGE, N.Y. (WABC) -- Could the eighth body found be that of Stony Brook student Jimmy Tsui?

    Kam Wai Tsui lives every day with the grief and the devastating uncertainty of what happened to her youngest son, Jimmy.

    The 20-year-old Stony Brook student vanished without a trace in August of 1998.



    "She has given up on it, she just wants to know if he's alive or not alive," a translator said for Tsui.

    Now, investigative sources tell Eyewitness News they're examining a possible link between Tsui and so-called John Doe number eight. One of the skeletons uncovered this spring along ocean parkway.
     
  9. Aleph

    Aleph New Member

    Messages:
    873
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    0
  10. Aleph

    Aleph New Member

    Messages:
    873
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    0
  11. downport

    downport Member

    Messages:
    300
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I don't see any update, so should we assume the remains are not Jimmy Tsui ?
     
  12. bodhi93

    bodhi93 Member

    Messages:
    147
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Here's the composite just release by LE.
    uid-asian male.jpg

    Going throught the mp database and agree with Aleph that Mo Zhang could be a possible candidate. Also, found Daniel Ted Yuan. Although he's listed missing in California, it also says that he resided in New Jersey.
     
  13. bodhi93

    bodhi93 Member

    Messages:
    147
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Here's the composite just release by LE.
    View attachment 18744

    Going throught the mp database and agree with Aleph that Mo Zhang could be a possible candidate. Also, found Daniel Ted Yuan. Although he's listed missing in California, it also says that he resided in New Jersey.
     

    Attached Files:

  14. matou

    matou #los2188

    Messages:
    20,151
    Likes Received:
    2,491
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This male was found in women's clothes, leading LE to suspect that he was working as a cross-dressing prostitute. This could be the connection between this man and the other women. Were there any missing Asian lady-boy prostitutes from NY? I don't think the killer would have been "surprised" by this man being a man. I think he targeted this person and victimized him as he did the others. JMO

    http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/wpix-details-released-gilgo-beach-investigation,0,1707853.story

     
    madamx likes this.
  15. Sistah Sleuth

    Sistah Sleuth Member

    Messages:
    491
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I totally agree. My friend reminded me today that I stated that the asian man could be a transvestite prostitute. My friend tends to religiously think inside the box and he was conflumixed about whether it was one sk or more and the asian guy threw him off. However, it is possible that the asian didn't cross dress at all but was solicited from Craigslist or met in a bar in the village, taken someplace and murdered and the sk dressed him in women's clothing afterwards. We should know for sure if the asian is ever identified because family members and definitely friends may be able to confirm if he was into cross dressing--at least the friends would be a solid confirmation.

    *Chuckles at "lady-boy"*
     
  16. matou

    matou #los2188

    Messages:
    20,151
    Likes Received:
    2,491
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I was just looking at photos of Shannon Gilbert and I have to say she has a Asian look to her and a little bit androgynous as well. The lady-boys can look so feminine that it is shocking. I had a household of tranny prostitutes living next door to me (!!!) and one was a lady-boy and none of them would ever go on a date without dressing up. Shoes, jewellery, hair, everything. I wonder if there was a wig or long hair associated with the Asian man's body. He could have dressed him up after killing him but I think he treated him like the others.
     
  17. kemo

    kemo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,624
    Likes Received:
    922
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm still a little confised. Has Jimmy Tsui definitly been ruled out as the Asian Male?
     
  18. matou

    matou #los2188

    Messages:
    20,151
    Likes Received:
    2,491
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This is the actual street term for Asian tranny (usually from Thailand e.g. Bangkok ladyboy). I found it funny too!
     
  19. Sistah Sleuth

    Sistah Sleuth Member

    Messages:
    491
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I believe so if this is the student from Hofstra (I think) the DNA did not match and his mother remains tormented. This was determined within the last month or so.
     
  20. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    8,089
    Likes Received:
    3,464
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This guy's facial features align perfectly to the facial reconstruction:

    Mo Zhang
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/z/zhang_mo.html

    [​IMG]

    I have sized the above images so that they are comparable. If you click your mouse on Mo's photo and drag it to the right over the reconstruction, Mo's photo becomes transparent, and you can test the similarity of their facial shapes and spacing of their facial features.

    ETA: I just realized that this trick only works if you are using the Mozilla Firefox browser.
     

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice