The Brother & the Bike Fight

Discussion in 'Lindsey Baum' started by SeriouslySearching, Jul 7, 2009.

  1. SeriouslySearching

    SeriouslySearching Well-Known Member

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    Evidently, it was only a rumor which could not be substantiated and was nixed by K's mom via her conversation with Cyber. So as far as we know, nothing like that was ever found and was mixed up with the items given to LE for the dogs to get their mark.

    The story is the chain was either missing or off in some way. I haven't heard any reports about flat tires. It would make more sense as to why the bike was left in that location tho.
     
  2. LotsaLatte

    LotsaLatte Well-Known Member

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    I really want to know when the bike was "found." If it was actually "found" 2 days after LB was reported missing, they didn't search very well. If it was left secured in place for investigative reasons, that would make me feel better. I have a little girl that is 9 and I would be livid if that bike and a 5 mile radius around it wasn't completely researched for any possible evidence. It's hard to figure out any possible places that LB is with such little information. It breaks my heart.
     
  3. SeriouslySearching

    SeriouslySearching Well-Known Member

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    Her brother knew where the bike was since they were together when she supposedly left it so I don't think it was a matter of LE "finding" it. I can't figure out why the brother left it for 2-3 days since he is the avid bike rider...according to his mother.

    I cannot imagine why LE would want to leave it there either. Were they watching to see if someone was going to come back and get it? I guess it is possible if they thought Lindsey was a runaway at first, but why would she come back to get a bike that didn't work?
     
  4. distracted

    distracted Well-Known Member

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    I've looked for over an hour for a media reference to the bike being left behind the station for 2-3 days and I couldn't find one. But there are many links to pages that are no longer available.

    I know that KK said that the bike was left there for that length of time but I also remember MB, Lindsey's mom, confirming that it was left there for a couple of days after she went missing. I just can't find it. Sorry.
     
  5. LotsaLatte

    LotsaLatte Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, good point if they may have been waiting to see if anyone was coming back. However, I am still thinking that when a child is missing, everything and everyone should be questioned, etc. So, maybe if the bike was left there, they had processed it and watched. I just get the creeps thinking of her going to get the bike and someone taking the opportunity to grab her there or close by.
     
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    Normcar21 New Member

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    I appreciate your "doggie" analogy and definitely can apply to sibling rivalry in the human domain, at least from what I have seen. The quest for control.
     
  7. Kimster

    Kimster Former Member

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    SS, your dog cracks me up!

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  8. Normcar21

    Normcar21 New Member

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    O/T - Smart dog, hilarious story, I'll bet his eyes and ears got all droopy once busted.

    ON/T - I'm sure Lindsey would appreciate that gesture for sure. The more I "don't" learn about this family the more troublesome it is to me, no real statements of the great family unit, the love, the joy that is often shared in situations like this. The lack of family photos showing great smiles and healthy structure. I can think only of 2 off hand, the christmas photo (mother's little trouble maker) and the one of JB and MB with body paint and swim goggles. Surely there are more family photos that help identify Lindsey in her natural environment. All that I get from this family is silence, fear, juvie, trouble, broken bikes, arguments, 911 calls, etc., etc.

    It's disturbing :confused:
     
  9. SeriouslySearching

    SeriouslySearching Well-Known Member

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    OT: Actually, it was more of a glare than droopy eyes. LOL

    On Topic: The bike thing bothers me and I simply do not understand the situation. If brother has been in trouble in the past (which evidently is the case), why he is allowed to roam all over town on his bike anyway? Supervision appears to be an underlying factor here. Are the kids on their own while mom is working? Are they on their own pretty much even if she is home?

    Now that you mention it, we aren't seeing photos with her and her family. Even on her website I noticed they have very few photos and most (if not all) were already in the press. I would think on her site since it is run by family and friends, there would be tons of family type photos.

    It does make you wonder why we aren't hearing the good things about her family life. I hope there are happy stories to be told at the vigil tonight. The public needs to hear more of those.
     
  10. Normcar21

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    As SS indicates, the flat tire idea was nixed by K. Whether or not she knows for sure is up for debate as many many posters both here and elsewhere take K's chat with a large grain of salt because of past conflicting information.

    Personally, I can see the chain problem as being viable as well since it is easier to coast and glide a bike rather than walk. I used to do that as a kid, even when the chain wasn't broken, more fun to push, jump on seat, and glide. The bike may well have simply been incidental to the major sibling rivalry. If the bike chain didn't arise, then they would have found something else to argue about. I suspect that Lindsey and her girlfriend simply didn't want JB to tag along with them and they would have found something else to get him out of their hair. That myspace comment by LB again leaps out at me as I write: "Lindsey Baum is happy that her brother is going to juvie tomorrow."

    To me, that statement -- made 9 days before she disappeared -- is significant plus.
     
  11. SeriouslySearching

    SeriouslySearching Well-Known Member

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    What KK's mom nixed was the hoodie and flip flop being found instead of flat tires. Sorry, I was answering another post and should have been more clear.

    I think the myspace comment is significant, too. So when did brother supposedly get out of Juvy and was he only there a week?
     
  12. Normcar21

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    SS, I couldn't find a "vigil" thread, where is the vigil being held, please, thanks.
     
  13. Normcar21

    Normcar21 New Member

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    SS said:
    What KK's mom nixed was the hoodie and flip flop being found instead of flat tires.

    Me - I'm sure that I read about one of our 2 super sleuthes in the area inquiring about the bike problem and her saying it was the chain rather than a tire. I may well be mistaken, of course, thanks
     
  14. Normcar21

    Normcar21 New Member

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    SS said -

    Now that you mention it, we aren't seeing photos with her and her family. Even on her website I noticed they have very few photos and most (if not all) were already in the press. I would think on her site since it is run by family and friends, there would be tons of family type photos.

    It does make you wonder why we aren't hearing the good things about her family life. I hope there are happy stories to be told at the vigil tonight. The public needs to hear more of those.

    Me - one reason I'd really like to see a more recent photo of JB is because I did spot some recent video of him and he looked a heck of a lot "larger" than he did in that swim and goggle photo that I believe to be a few years old.

    JB looked much larger and bulky in the recent video
     
  15. JenniferO

    JenniferO Fear has a large shadow, but she herself is small.

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    Here you go Norm
     
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    She made that comment on June 17. Using the Washington court records name search and searching JB's name, I found that an individual with JB's name had a review hearing (in a felony case!) on June 18 in Grays Harbor County Superior Court. It seems likely to be JB's case as the case history includes an entry labeled "Stmnt Of Juv Offndr/plea of Guilty".

    I think Lindsey probably heard her mother talking about the appearance and, while he wasn't actually being sent to a juvenile center on that date, an 11 year old girl wouldn't really know the distinction between going to court and going to juvy.

    I should add that I learned the case was a felony-level case by taking the case number that I obtained from the name search and then searching by case number on the superior court case number search page.
     
  17. SeriouslySearching

    SeriouslySearching Well-Known Member

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    I just put it up!
     
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    SeriouslySearching Well-Known Member

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    Wow! Great work, Hyldo! Felony! Hmmmm...sounds serious. This couldn't be a case of shoplifting or mere misdemeaner activity of a kid.
     
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    WOW!!!! :eek:

    wonder what the heck he did! wonder if he was by himself when he committed the crime?
     
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    ~dragonfly~ New Member

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    from Cranky's photoalbum:

    Josh walks with searcher Jeff Strege and Lindsey's dog Kadence, while Neil Newell hands out flyers to motorists 7/3/09



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