The Burglary and the Jacket

Discussion in 'Anjelica "AJ" Hadsell' started by Hoosgirl, May 20, 2015.

  1. Hoosgirl

    Hoosgirl Well-Known Member

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    Thank you to all who have been puzzling through the burglary charge. I think it is pretty clear that he entered without permission, both by his own words and the homeowner stating she was not aware of it until after the fact.

    However, the charge requires the intent to do a crime other than just the unlawful entry. His charge specifies a misdemeanor crime other than trespassing and A&B. So it can't be just the fact that he was trespassing on someone else's property.

    So what is that other misdemeanor charge??

    The judge dismissed it originally because the prosecutor didn’t show intent of committing another crime while he was in there (if he was just "making the evidence come to light").

    Why isn't he just charged with trespassing or unlawful entry?

    The only thing I can think of is there is evidence that he did plant AJ's Longwood jacket. What that evidence would be, I have no idea.

    But I don't see how (other than GJs indicting ham sandwiches) the burglary charge was done, since there is no accompanying other misdemeanor charge.

    Hope that made sense. I think I just gave myself a headache.
     
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  3. FindHG

    FindHG WS Liason Staff Member WS Liason

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    Thank you, Hoosgirl, for taking the hit on the headache trying to figure it out. Hope it goes away fast. I'm useless in such considerations and WSers who know are a great help. Things like, Hadsell is the first man I've ever heard of to look behind couch cushions, puzzle me.


    Off topic:

    http://wtkr.com/2015/05/20/foia-requests-to-police-sometimes-denied-improperly/
     
  4. arkansasmimi

    arkansasmimi Active Member

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    AND its the very same statue code as originally used. JMO they could have used J Fisher video interview to show some sort of intent.
    Judge threw out because Pros didn't show intent prior.

    Wording on "charge" is different. Orig>break and enter of the dwelling house of R.S. while it was occupied with the intent to commit a misc other than assault and battery or trespass https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6QHkjbC3op6UWJyTDVrdnJfSzg/view?pli=1

    New : Statutory Burglary 18.2-92
    vail http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ocs-**NO-DISCUSSION**&p=11715740#post11715740
     
  5. Ontario Mom

    Ontario Mom Because I'm the Mom, that's why.

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    Since he was served with a Capias arrest warrant for this charge, and sometimes those warrants are issued due to a sworn affidavit from someone with personal knowledge of the crime, is it possible someone came forward and swore under oath that Wes told them he broke into that house for the specific goal of planting AJ's jacket to be "found" later?
     
  6. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, firimar!

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    I know this neighborhood. I know where JH lives and I know where ZH lives. Is it within "walking distance", yes. Would that be a very LONG walk...absolutely.
     
  7. Ontario Mom

    Ontario Mom Because I'm the Mom, that's why.

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    Clearly I missed something. What is the significance of the distance between the two homes? I've scrolled back but I can't seem to find what that has to do with.
     
  8. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, firimar!

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    I assumed from Eileen's post that there had been some implication that AJ might have walked to Zach's house, because the 2 homes are within "walking distance". Are they within walking distance? Yes, if you like to walk. They are close to 4 miles apart. That walk would take roughly an hour and 20 minutes. Let's not forget there was snow on the ground and AJ had on only her Longwood jacket...so that would have been a VERY uncomfortable hour and 20 minute walk, IMO. ;)
     
  9. Ontario Mom

    Ontario Mom Because I'm the Mom, that's why.

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    Link? ;) Just kidding. I never saw any implication of her walking to his house but yes, that distance in that weather with just a light jacket? Not at all likely IMO.
     
  10. arkansasmimi

    arkansasmimi Active Member

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    Just for clarification, if you will go back to this comment and read forward, you will see that no one made implications that AJ might have walked to Zach home or anyone home for that matter.
     
  11. arkansasmimi

    arkansasmimi Active Member

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    Just checking in to see if we have had a POI announced yet. As far as I can tell no. I wanted to bring forward a very powerful post by Tricia.
    BBM. Have a Safe Memorial Day Weekend!
     
  12. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, firimar!

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    Thank you. I'm having serious issues with this page loading and reloading constantly because of the ads, so it's entirely possible I missed some posts which would have put this into context for me.
     
  13. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, firimar!

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    For further clarification, Tricia's comment referenced in your post is dated 3/22/15 . It is now May 23, 2015...and we have a great deal more information now than we had then. :)
     
  14. arkansasmimi

    arkansasmimi Active Member

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    In reference to AJ disappearance and death? I have been out of town for a few days and just checking in and so possible I missed. Can you direct me to a link to where Wes has been arrested or named as a POI? I looked, but possible I missed an arrest or anything new in regards to cause of death.

    Until then, I still see very much relevance to her comment. Just my honest opinion.
     
  15. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, firimar!

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    BBM

    Nope.

    I am simply pointing out that the comment you referenced was dated 3/22/15. You may not think much has changed since then, and you are entitled to your opinion. I simply don't agree with it. :)
     
  16. Hoosgirl

    Hoosgirl Well-Known Member

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    It was further along, posts 403 and 404. Just so you know you're not crazy!

    Back to the court hearing topic. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to whether the bench trial will happen as planned, or will there be a continuance, or a plea?
     
  17. Eileen730

    Eileen730 Former Member

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    I can't either but .... I think it had something g to do with JH and zh being in the same.school district area.
     
  18. Eileen730

    Eileen730 Former Member

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    But we do not know what happened to AJ. Or who is responsible.
    All Wes s charges really have nothing to do with her death

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  19. arkansasmimi

    arkansasmimi Active Member

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    Respectfully, so no one thinks they are crazy the conversation started:
    Originally Posted by grammy56
    Following the phone pings.

    More than 20 people were out searching for the teenager again Friday. Mr. Hadsell said her cell phone sent a signal from the area of Tidewater Drive near Thole Street in Norfolk

    http://wavy.com/2015/04/03/police-in...disappearance/

    leep #394 Good old Wes trying to get Zack in trouble, Only LE were having none of it MOO. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...t-Hearing-11-May-2015&p=11776713#post11776713

    Originally Posted by leep
    Good old Wes trying to get Zack in trouble, Only LE were having none of it MOO.
    iamnotagolem #395 Care to explain? Zach isn't even mentioned in that article. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...t-Hearing-11-May-2015&p=11776728#post11776728

    Originally Posted by iamnotagolem
    Care to explain? Zach isn't even mentioned in that article.
    leep #403 If I remember correctly doesn't ZH live near there, I maybe wrong then sorry.
    Last edited by leep; 05-18-2015 at 10:04 AM. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...t-Hearing-11-May-2015&p=11778879#post11778879

    mamajaay #404 ZH and JH live within walking distance of each other. Therefore, when they alternate custodial weeks of the daughters that they share together, they are zoned for the same school at both residences. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...t-Hearing-11-May-2015&p=11779237#post11779237

    Originally Posted by leep
    If I remember correctly doesn't ZH live near there, I maybe wrong then sorry.
    arkansasmimi #405
    http://wavy.com/2015/04/03/police-in...disappearance/
    BBM Near where? How would we know ZH address? http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...t-Hearing-11-May-2015&p=11780827#post11780827

    Originally Posted by arkansasmimi
    http://wavy.com/2015/04/03/police-in...disappearance/
    BBM Near where? How would we know ZH address?
    Eileen #730
    One of these threads here it says he lives within walking distance to JH. I read it yesterday.
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...t-Hearing-11-May-2015&p=11784003#post11784003

    Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    One of these threads here it says he lives within walking distance to JH. I read it yesterday
    arkansasmimi # 42But Respectfully, no snark intended, if ZH didn't tell us that, it would be considered rumor I believe, because we aren't suppose to sleuth anyone but AJ and special conditions allowed for WH. I believe ZH and ThatGuyBear are only VI on this case. JMO 0 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...t-Hearing-11-May-2015&p=11785099#post11785099

    ************************
    Again, for clarification, because I know I am not crazy and don't want anyone else thinking they are or implying someone else is. Elainne was only trying to help someone. Whole point being someone implied something incorrectly about something that wasn't even in the media link. That was where the original clarification came from. NO ONE implied that AJ walked anywhere. Hope this corrects the thread for anyone just catching up.
     
  20. magnumpi757

    magnumpi757 New Member

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    Respectfully, their homes are not zoned for the same high school.


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  21. leep

    leep Member

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    Annnd I'd still put my house on it for me he's 100% guilt. MOO MOO


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