The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 10th July - Trial Day 18

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  1. Inspector

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    Alioop what kind of document would be handed to family members in court?
     


  2. PlainJaneDoe

    PlainJaneDoe Verified expert in neuroscience

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    Why don't they get transcripts? Omg I would never be able to remember everything!
     
  3. JK673

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    It is actually quite unusual
     
  4. UnfoldingTruth

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    I agree.. At that point you would not want to worry them unnecessarliy. At that point, you would be assuming Allison is still alive(unless you know otherwise ;)). I'd think sending them to school and trying not to let them know too much or see too much of what was going on re police and that Mummy was missing was not necessarily unusual. But telling them she fell down a hole and wasn't coming back? Or even telling them much at all about her being missing, rather than trying to down play it for their benefit- I think is a bit off.
     
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    iMessage uses the internet. It would have connected receiving an iMessage


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  6. BreakingNews

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    There is a higher court than courts of justice and that is the court of conscience. It supercedes all other courts.
    Mahatma Gandhi
     
  7. Honey-Bee

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    If possible can you share your thoughts as to why?
     
  8. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    who , and what
     
  9. BritsKate

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    A poster asked if the judge could overrule the jury's verdict (US/UK)...

    It very rarely happens at all but when it does, a criminal court judge cannot overrule an acquittal in the US. (Double jeopardy is enacted.) A judge can reverse a conviction - known as JNOV (judgement not withstanding a verdict) - usually due to a lack of evidence necessary to establish guilt BARD or malfeasance during the trial that would cause a higher court to overturn the conviction (like the prosecutor withholding evidence favourable to the defence).

    In the UK a Crown court judge cannot reverse a verdict but can instruct the jury to return with a not guilty verdict if the burden's not been met - the jury can also ignore that direction - but the appellate court would simply quash the conviction anyway or render a substitute verdict.

    In 25 years of following trials, I can only recall it happening twice - the San Francisco dog mauling case and British nanny Louise Woodward. It's really not common...and prosecutors still retain the right to appeal a set aside verdict.

    JMO and HTH

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  10. Honey-Bee

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    can you share why you think this please?
     
  11. FirstTimer

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    It has not been mentioned in this trial at all as a charge. It has certainly been mentioned that Allison's body was dumped, therefore implying the notion of interference with a corpse, but it is not part of THIS trial.

    I would imagine that QPS may not have wanted to create any form of confusion or ambiguity in this trial by having to prosecute two charges rather than one to the jury. I have no doubt that once he is found guilty there would be absolutely no reason why they could not then go forward with interfering with a corpse, especially if they are thinking of charging mnore than one person with the crime.

    JMHO.

    Cheers.
     
  12. Smegal

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    Thank you for sharing. Ugh I just feel sick thinking about what the Dickies are going through.
     
  13. BJsleuth

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    Why not?
     
  14. FigTree

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    I find him sending the girls to school something very distasteful. I will find it disgraceful if he is found guilty.
    The girls will not forget that day.
    When age brings wisdom, they will question the role of the adults who made decisions at that time.
    I hope they have strong hearts and any sad and anxious memories of the day are replaced by the beautiful thoughts of their mother.

    Justice for Allison and her Girls.
     
  15. Honey-Bee

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    sorry am new at replying.:blushing: In regards to thinking there will be new charges laid
     
  16. PrimeSuspect

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    Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 25s
    The jury has been called back into the courtroom. They've been deliberating for two hours
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 36s

    Justice John Byrne has asked the jury to come back to court #badenclay @couriermail
     
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    Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 43s

    Jurors have returned to court - this is NOT a verdict. They are receiving a direction from the judge. #badenclay
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 46s
    I had not expected to see you so soon but an important matter brought to my attention - Justice Byrne

    Justice Byrne says clear directions not been observed
     
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    Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 32s

    Justice Byrne is warning the #badenclay jury not to use the internet, after one brought a 'how to deliberate' guide into the jury room.
     
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