The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 10th July - Trial Day 18

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. sheldor

    sheldor New Member

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    I guess since it was a how to guide about deliberations rather than information about the case it wasn't too prejudicial.
     


  2. Amee

    Amee Active Member

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    1:16pm: The material downloaded from the internet related to commentary from the United States about the role of a jury.

    "You scarcely need to know what some overseas commentator speaking about a different system happens to the think," Justice Byrne said.

    1:13pm: The jury has been called back into the courtroom for another direction from Justice Byrne.

    "There's been an important matter drawn to my attention," he said.

    Justice Byrne said a juror had downloaded material from the internet about how a jury might deliberate its verdict.

    "I expected that my direction given twice orally and once in writing that you must not inquire outside the courtroom about anything that related to the trial was clear and emphatic," he said.

    "What was done was wrong."

    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-18-week-5-20140710-3bnzp.html#ixzz3722hPYem
     
  3. Aunty

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    And I believe that I saw OBW being "served with a ? notice" yesterday, in relation to this.
     
  4. JK673

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    Thanks i knew i had heard of it somewhere
     
  5. Freya1977

    Freya1977 Well-Known Member

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    Oh....my....god..... :facepalm:
     
  6. Amee

    Amee Active Member

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    Eammon Atkinson ‏@EAtkinson7 1m

    The waiting continues - #BadenClay jury back deliberating. Judge won't take a verdict before 2.15pm
     
  7. UnfoldingTruth

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    If Allison had just gone for a walk and not that late home, probably was no need to alarm the kids until you knew more- and no reason to be ringing triple 0. But in the context of him being guilty, then maybe a different story. he certainly wasn't thinking of his kids when he murdered their mother(yeah not convicted yet..I know)
     
  8. possumheart

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    Beautiful, thank you. :heartbeat:

    Re note for OW: I suspect that if convicted, GBC will be moved to a different prison. The note may have been outlining that procedure, as well as procedures for if he is found innocent. Not sure that corrective services would deliver this information at court, but it would be efficient if they did.
     
  9. UnfoldingTruth

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    :facepalm:
     
  10. missfisher

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    I must admit that giving the jury a transcript seems like a pretty sensible idea. That, plus the warning not to use the internet makes me wonder if the rules of jurorship (if that's a word) aren't due for an overhaul. We're all so much more connected to information these days, that some jurors are going to expect transcripts and to be able to use the internet as a resource.

    it's going to be fascinating if they troop back in on a regular basis for a reread of a) court docs or b) the riot act!
     
  11. FirstTimer

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    SERIOUSLY???? WOW, I hope so..........
     
  12. JK673

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    It is unusual to send a kid to school when a serious family matter has occurred.
     
  13. JK673

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    Again....why are they NOT sequestered!!!!
     
  14. Brightbird

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    Maybe she was given notice in relation to approaching the jury? :dunno:
     
  15. PlainJaneDoe

    PlainJaneDoe Verified expert in neuroscience

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    "how to deliberate"
    By PlainJaneDoe

    (1) Close your browser.
    (2) Put down your electronic device(s).
    (3) Listen to and follow the instructions of the actual court officials, asking questions as necessary. Seriously, they will be more helpful than some rando on the 'net.
     
  16. FigTree

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    wth??!!
     
  17. Brightbird

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    I'm concerned now about the jury. Should be pretty obvious that a US guide to deliberating is off the mark, not to mention prohibited.
     
  18. UnfoldingTruth

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    But at that point it was assumed or should have been assumed not to be a serious matter. I think. But then thats the point isnt it- he was making it into a serious matter straight away and being alarmist and the kids did know she was missing...
     
  19. missfisher

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    Yup...if they don't lock them away, things like this are going to happen. They'll be ringing GBC in the cells next with a few questions!
     
  20. PrimeSuspect

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    Excellent and logical advice.

    I just can't believe a juror did that, after all the warnings from the Judge. :facepalm:
     
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