The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 10th July - Trial Day 18

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. Fluffykins

    Fluffykins Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and I'm concerned that there is one person on the jury who really isn't very bright.
     


  2. PrimeSuspect

    PrimeSuspect Under the Milky Way

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    Gawd, I remember that, lol!
     
  3. Timmy

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    Hopefully not the guy with the notes on how to deliberate taken from the Internet! ;)
     
  4. STELLA85

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    OMG thats hillarious :floorlaugh:
     
  5. BrissyLass

    BrissyLass New Member

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    sure, looking up how to deliberate is hardly going to be seen as a major problem, the way I see it is that it goes on to point out that if juror(s) looked that up, just what else have they looked up on the internet in their spare time?
     
  6. Brightbird

    Brightbird Active Member

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    Yes, that's the essence of what I was thinking.
     
  7. Smegal

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    It just beggars belief, doesn't it? How could you possibly think it was okay? What, you (meaning the juror) didn't think the judge knew what he was talking so thought you would google it instead?
     
  8. BrissyLass

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    boom boom, im fairly sure that is the question

    okay, i'm out
     
  9. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    often they just want to show how clever they are and how much they know , seen it before
     
  10. AAAA

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    Oh god no! I suppose it could happen, but imagine the outcry! I reckon we'd be seeing him strutting around the Kenmore shops before too long...
     
  11. madamehdivision

    madamehdivision Registered user

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    It just absolutely beggars belief

    :facepalm:
     
  12. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    no not at all other wise you would have more mistrials than big G had affairs
     
  13. FigTree

    FigTree Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and his drama would have added to their stress and their uncertainty of what is happening.
    Their events surrounding them are telling them one thing and the adults are telling them another.
    They become confused - emotionally.
    They are alone at school - One of the girls mentioned that she told only one friend about what was happening.

    They could have been spent the day - or the time - with a family member until it was decided how serious the situation was.

    I think GBC thought his day was going to run smoothly - report ABC Missing - fill out a report at the Police Station - go to work.
     
  14. BJsleuth

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    I was thinking the same thing Squizzey. There's always one isn't there?
     
  15. Amee

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    1.22pm: The jury requested further information from Supreme Court Justice John Byrne.

    The jury re-entered the court room at 12.38pm.

    Justice Byrne told the jury they would not receive a copy of his summing up at the request of the prosecution and defence counsels.

    It retired again to deliberate shortly after.

    The jury returned to the court at 1.10pm, after they had been deliberating for two hours.

    Justice Byrne said he had three times warned the jury not to enquire of anything to do with the trial outside the court room.

    He said a juror had apparently downloaded from the internet material on how a jury might approach its “great responsibility of deliberating on a verdict”.

    He thanked the jury for bringing the matter to his attention.

    “Now everyone appreciates a juror’s job is rarely easy and we all understand a juror are often anxious about performing their role,” he said.

    “They want to do it well and responsibly and will look for assistance. But I repeat, that assistance must come from the court and only from the court, and not some external source.”

    Justice Byrne told the jury they had a guide to deliberating in a form that was approved by the court available to them in the jury room.

    “You scarcely need to know what some overseas commentator speaking about a very different system of jury trials, happens to think. So the document will be retained by my associate and not returned to the jury room.”

    He reminded the jury not to enquire outside of the court room about anything that related to the trial.

    “You must not use any aide, such as a textbook to conduct research, and except in this court room, you must not in any way seek or receive information about questions that arise in the trial, or about the accused, or about any witnesses or the deceased, for example by conducting research using the internet, or by communicating with someone by phone, email or Twitter, through any blog or website, including social networking websites, such as Facebook, LinkedIn and You Tube,” he said.

    The jury has returned to its deliberations.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...wipe-slate-clean/story-fnihsrf2-1226983491477
     
  16. Brightbird

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    I feel kinda sorry for him/her. Probably thought they were being helpful but got a stern talking to from the Judge. I believe it was innocent and won't affect the outcome of anything, but it's not exactly confidence inspiring.
     
  17. STELLA85

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    I do hope not
     
  18. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    yep the know all smart A#%E who wants to be seen , look at me , look at me, look at me me me, look at me
     
  19. possumheart

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    We all know our courts are chokkers, and it would be a travesty if this went on and on, so a mistrial would be a travesty for all.
    It sounds like the jury will settle in now that they have had their role explained to them multiple times, with emphasis on their responsibility.
    If that responsibility has given any of the jurors a big head, I hope they pull it in and get down to serious business (as opposed to swanning about 'business as usual').
    moo
     
  20. samanthaj

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    Alioop, can we trouble you for your thoughts? Do you think we have anything to be worried about? At the very least do the defence have enough to warrant a check of the juror's internet searches to see what else may have been looked up? Given the Judge hasn't called a mistrial will this be the last we hear of this in the current trial? I assume the defence would then make a decision about appeal in the following weeks/months once we know the verdict?
     
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