The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 10th July - Trial Day 18

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. Greg

    Greg New Member

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    That it has, I'll never forget that first time I saw him on tv with his sister in the little bit hurt interview, your kidding I said to myself, this guy has bumped her off......

    Yes a long time coming Troops......

    I'll be honest...I'll be so so happy when he is locked away for the rest of his life, I grieved for Allison a long time ago, now I want retribution for her, for her children, for her parents and for her friends and for all her friends on here and other places that she never met.

    I want him and the rest of them to feel pain and suffering for being so callous in snuffing out a life that was not theirs to snuff out and then to attempt to snuff out her memory in the same way to protect their own sorry asses from facing justice.

    I have nothing but contempt for him, for them, and for their self righteous attitude.

    I vote turning the pineapple sideways ....what say you Troops ;)
     


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    sorry, catching up here...I bet that juror will be thoroughly told off by his/her colleagues.

    :gaah:
     
  3. Her Honour

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    Was just thinking about that law in this context. I am not saying this as an eggspurt, just IMO, the classic manslaughter scenario in a domestic setting is a scuffle, where one or both parties are assaulted, that is, pushed, shoved, battered, bruised (something short of that GBH definition), then one is knocked to the ground/hits head on glass etc. In that situation, whilst being engaged in an altercation, it could be seen that there was no intention to kill. Hence no murder.

    I am actually still trying to get my head around how they arrive at manslaughter on the evidence. As Ali and Freya and I'm sure others observed, it sounded like Justice Byrne was steering them away from it.
     
  4. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    I think I know what that means.

    :thinking:
     
  5. MadDoc

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    Someone said something the other day along the lines of "don't worry, there are no Baden-Clays on the jury."

    Now I'm not so sure...:facepalm::thinking:
     
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    Sorry about that folks - got the wool pulled over my eyes by channel ten


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  7. Her Honour

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    Anyone concerned about the gender makeup of the jury, check it ouuuut. Owee.

    Thanks lads.
     
  8. Onlyone

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    Agree with every single word, exactly how I feel too. Thank you for putting to all together so well. ❤️
     
  9. AAAA

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    It still defies my belief that prisoners with sentences like murder or armed robbery are housed in a jail so close to suburbia. Particularly with all the new development around Wolston. The jails should be in the middle of nowhere. God knows there is so much space in each of our states to do this. So why? Less government spending? Welcome your thoughts everyone. I'm sure there must be an answer I haven't considered?
     
  10. MadDoc

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    7:5 is not bad - they would have to be very lucky to get exactly 6:6. I've heard of juries composed of 10 of one gender and 2 of the other. I don't know how much difference it makes to the outcome or the ability to reach a verdict - I suppose that with certain kinds of crimes, such as rape, the defence and/or prosecution would be hoping that jurors of one gender or the other would be more favourable to their side.
     
  11. PlainJaneDoe

    PlainJaneDoe Verified expert in neuroscience

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    Are you inside too?
     
  13. Her Honour

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    Good question AAAA. The only thing which immediately springs to my mind is transport (the further afield, the harder/costlier it might be to adequately staff/stock the joint? and for relative proximity to centres of justice i.e. clients?).
     
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    I would be happy with 12 hirsute jurors,non gender specific!
     
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    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    When Cheeseman was on the stand he said Clay could always win when growing a beard. I would like to see more research from past photos or from work colleagues to ask how many times Clay had a beard. In every past photo I've seen he's beardless. A real estate sales person is advised/preferred to be clean-shaven.
     
  16. Camp Chair

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    In all seriousness, I went to bed with this on the brain last night. Bribes. Would key people be under surveillance for this atm and/or any possible attempts to make contact with jurors? (which could be done via proxy I suppose anyway). Just a bad feeling sitting in my stomach about any last desperate acts of interference.
     
  17. AAAA

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    And then you have the case of Raymond Akhtar Ali who complained that he had to eat vegetarian as no halal meals were available ... Brisbane jail
     
  18. Her Honour

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    Too funny! Got me thinking how surreal/Kafkaesque it would be to discover we ALL were, in adjacent little (padded) cells, banging out 'he so dunnit' or 'nah, I met him at the infirmary and he's the nicest guy in the world'...on our State supplied iPads, natch.
     
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    I was just wondering, I have never seen it written that GBC grabbed Flegg by the shirt or got physical, when he asked him to step outside that CC meeting - Flegg didn't say it in court, did I miss it in his statement?
     
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