The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 19th June - Trial Day 7, Week 2

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. marlywings

    marlywings Former Member

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    This is from court exhibits & is where the Captiva was parked at the time police arrived. As to where it was parked on previous night is anyone's guess.

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    The Baden-Clays' house in Brookfield. Photo: Court Exhibit

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ive-coverage-day-6-week-2-20140618-3ackc.html
     


  2. they'll get you

    they'll get you On Time Out

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    I'm sure I saw grainy footage of Allison at the hairdressers, it was black & white.
    Was I dreaming?
     
  3. sosocurious

    sosocurious Well-Known Member

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    Constable Huth said that he examined underneath the house as well as the carport and camper trailer and no blood was found.
    It has also been said no blood or sign of disturbance was found in the house.
    There has been no mention yet of the back patio area or yard re blood or disturbance.
    The timing of the defenses witness Mrs Apps could be an attempt to muddy the waters re the screams and arguing in close proximity to the Brookfield home before we get to the evidence out the back.
     
  4. marlywings

    marlywings Former Member

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    Making a note here...

    In some of the very early threads there were a LOT of rumours. We don't allow or discuss those rumours on WS now.

    Also, if you copy information from media, witness statements or police reports you need to supply a link to that info.
     
  5. Zim

    Zim Active Member

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    Hi guys.
    Sorry to comment on my own dumb post. I was stupid and clumsy to try to simplify something very dear to my heart as to how society has changed over the years. I really never meant any offence. I of course am aware of the differences in gender and sexual choices etc I was trying to show how we cannot choose the kids we get....we get what we get and Thank God that the world is so much more accepting today compared to the dinosaur years.
    I am sorry I'll put it down to a senior moment totally lacking...and I apologise.

    :truce:
     
  6. Cattail

    Cattail New Member

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    Trying to get my head around no blood at the house AND in the carport yet blood in the car.
     
  7. possumheart

    possumheart Well-Known Member

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    On Children
    Kahlil Gibran

    Your children are not your children.
    They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
    They come through you but not from you,
    And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

    You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
    For they have their own thoughts.
    You may house their bodies but not their souls,
    For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
    which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
    You may strive to be like them,
    but seek not to make them like you.
    For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

    You are the bows from which your children
    as living arrows are sent forth.
    The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
    and He bends you with His might
    that His arrows may go swift and far.
    Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
    For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
    so He loves also the bow that is stable.
     
  8. Perthgirl62

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    Lucky you Ippy, I've just been able to sit down to read. So much too catch up on. :scared:

    Lets hope there was some damning evidence against GBC today :please:
     
  9. they'll get you

    they'll get you On Time Out

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    Aww Zim there's no truce required. :)

    I think it all started from GBCs comment about wanting a boy.
    Boy, girl whatever get, we love em up anyway!!

    :grouphug::grouphug:
    :grouphug::grouphug:
     
  10. Berry

    Berry Gotch ya

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    Thanks for raising this because it allows us to again bring this back to the point at issue during this trial of the murder of Allison.

    Defense is trained to layer the silvery layers of reasonable doubt each time prosecution is layering thick flagstones of road paving of evidence of proof.

    Now you are questioning the prosecutions evidence...trust me they have rock/flagstones they are positioning very methodically to build this big picture for the jury.
     
  11. sosocurious

    sosocurious Well-Known Member

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    Me too
    Marlywings posted some posts ago the charge sheet which says she was murdered at the home.
    I am just wondering/hoping if something might have been found out back.
    Blood, hair, fabric matching the cloths Allison was wearing,
     
  12. Consider

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    Ahh. Ding!
    I was thinking of a wheel rim...
    Thanks for sorting me out!
     
  13. Consider

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    This is so contradictory.

    Blood in car with no sign of an attempted cleanup.

    Plant matter in hair that is specific to house.

    Yet no blood in house, and no obvious cleanup.

    No blood in carport area.


    No forensics matching GBC shoes or car to area where body was found.

    How can the same person have covered up some things so well and others so poorly??

    My gut has said from the start that he did it. But my gut feeling has no legal standing. I am worried that what seems so obvious to the general public is not so cut and dried from a legal viewpoint.
     
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    I hope you are right :please:
     
  16. Consider

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    That's a lot of blood (droplets?) with a distinct and similar pattern on both hubs
    (previously I saw only a photo of one blood splattered hub..)

    The 'pattern' and then lack of blood between the two hubs is baffling (to me).
    Presumably when those seats are up there's no blood on them?

    Doesn't say much for tarp and roping skills Messrs Baden-! IMO

    I must be annoying as a late starter. Sorry.
     
  17. Cattail

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    I am a late starter too - not annoying to me ;)
     
  18. Thinking

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    If Allison didn't bleed until she was in the car (eg hit head, nose started to bleed eg) then GBC probably didn't even realise she was bleeding, this didn't feel the need to try to clean the captiva afterwards.
     
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    I am still finding it hard to reconcile "no obvious cleanup" with Mrs Dickie's observation that seemed to suggest there had been a cleanup. I think she used the word clinical in her description of the home when she arrived there.
     
  20. Cattail

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    I have limited medical knowledge but how much blood flow would there be from injury to a deceased person?
     
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