The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 1st July - Trial Day 13, Week 3

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. Trooper

    Trooper Well-Known Member

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    Gerard is rather insistent that he was under no financial pressure at all.. A dead giveaway.. he wants that deflected, and permanently.... not going to happen. . Every entry into any accounts book under the name of Baden-Clay, Bruce Overland, Superguy, the Brookie Stud, the Counselling Guru, the real estate mogul, the Friend of MP's, the TopStep Company, Settle Company, .. on and on and on.. bring pencils and paper and an ordinary calculator for some of these sessions coming up..

    You wont need anything complicated.. toes and fingers will probably give as good an accounting as anything else.. ..
     


  2. Cattail

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    Yes I have tried to see it as the jury would too, and while I have my own opinion I'm not yet convinced that they have been shown enough.

    The thing that makes me believe it wasn't suicide is where she was found, and with the car back at home no easy means to have gotten herself there.

    Many of the other reasons people have suggested prove it isn't suicide are myths in my opinion.

    I'm sorry about your mum.
     
  3. missfisher

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    True, but the blog could have been totally fictional as well...
     
  4. Consider

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    Oddsocks: what character traits would you consider as prerequisites for a murderer?

    Fuller is questioning GBC's personality, persuasions and propensity to consider the possibility of getting away with murder.

    What causes someone to kill another person for the first time?

    Like you, I'm keeping an open mind. Well I'm trying to...

    What does it take, in the lead up; to killing someone for the first time?

    Did GBC have his own motive/s? external pressure/s? the physical and/or emotional capacity? the upbringing? the personality 'type', etc.

    Queensland Police seem to think so whether or not you or I do or not.
     
  5. Liadan

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    (re:troopers post in y'ear!)



    bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha (its not enough - I could fill the page!):great::Banane10:
     
  6. possumheart

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    You forgot Brookie Burgerman
    ETA: I see you covered that with "Brookie Stud", sorry.
     
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  8. Trooper

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    well... there is spin, and there is salesmanship and then there is that horrible thing called arithmetic... spin and selling seem to crumple and fade in the face of 2 + 2 = 4, no matter which way its spun or sold. It relentlessly, without apology or shame, comes up as 4 every darn time..

    You can colour it blue, or pink, you can hold it under water, you can throw it in the air, you can boil it and set it in jelly, but 2 + 2 will always do the same bloody thing, right in your face..

    This is what Gerard is going to have to deal with... .
     
  9. DrWatson

    DrWatson Verified Thoracic and Vascular Surgeon

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    Actually, with all due respect, drowning WAS ruled out. There wasn't a single diatom in her tissues - and the diatom/drowning expert witness stated categorically that she did not drown. And I'd agree with that, for what it's worth.

    In terms of a fall from the bridge - apart from the lack of broken bones or any other impact-type injury, there is the problem of Allison being found UNDER the bridge - which in turn also goes against the theory (which I used to hold) that she was dropped off the edge of the bridge, eg by rolling the body under the lower rail of the bridge. But the more I've heard and learned, and knowing the area well, the more I now believe she was simply dragged down that bank on the upstream side of the bridge, onto the concrete pillar-base under the bridge, and rolled off it. Perhaps the intent was to hide her, perhaps not. Maybe the intent was for her to be washed out into the Brisbane River and then downstream. Who knows?

    But I really, really, doubt the suicide angle. And why no phone with her? If she left it at home - where is it? If she took it with her - where was it? And how did she get to Kholo anyway, and why?

    I think it all comes down to likelihoods
     
  10. Waiting for Justice

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    This is what I have been waiting for......follow the money!
     
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    Crown Prosecutor Todd Fuller QC


    :loveyou::loveyou: :gthanks:
     
  12. Aunty

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    This is Gold for the Prosecution.
    Gerard has shown the jury , for 2 days on the stand, that he has an amazing memory !
    So, it is quite obvious, that when he can't remember something, he is Manipulating and Telling Lies.
    Great stuff. :seeya:
     
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    Yes, it could, but it doesn't really matter. All the prosecution are trying to do is to show that either his story then was a lie, or his story now is a lie :)
     
  14. catswhiskers

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    Is there any chance that the defence weren't fully aware of the blog and need time to get their heads around it or advise GBC about how to respond?
    Otherwise I have been enjoying the image of him squirming (created by reading the tweets being shared here) just a little more than I should be. I don't think the high whiny voice or pitifully raised eyebrows are helping him out in the stand today. Loving the way the prosecution has pounced (I've been imagining the questions being delivered in a rapid-fire barrage from Fuller) on clearly illustrating his duplicitous treatment of Allison and even TM. Nope ... he's not sounding like a terribly trustworthy, caring, or self-sacrificing guy today. Let's see what kind of spin is put on the blog entry after lunch.

    Just had a joyous thought - imagine what the prosecution is going to do with those scratch marks! :loveyou:
     
  15. Oddsocks

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    Good points. I don't know.
     
  16. possumheart

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    "You put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig."
     
  17. No list, but only one question:

    Mr. Gerred, don't you think, that you are making the life of your beautiful little girls re their future much more difficult, if you are not willing now and here to tell the only truth?
     
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    Question: What did Allison have for dinner on the 19th since she wasn't around at NBC's and did she have a cuppa and TimTams to watch the Footy Show?

    There are always a few cups and crumbs in the sink in the morning.
     
  20. Susan12

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    I'm sad about the break, gives him time to regroup, I wanted them to keep the pressure on. Really hope they allow this blog to be admitted, and today. It was publicly available so it wasn't private and it's existence not exactly secret.
     
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