The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 24th June - Trial Day 9, Week 3

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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 7s

    Mr Cheesman says he believes Gerard's credit card debt was his only "personal debt". #badenclay
     


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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m

    Mr Cheesman: there was limited personal risk to Gerard if the business fell over #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m

    Mr Cheesman says he believes Gerard's credit card debt was his only "personal debt". #badenclay
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 22s

    Mr Cheesman says in June, after Gerard's arrest, the rent roll reverted back to the former partners. #badenclay

    Mr Cheesman says Gerard was always optimistic. He says Allison had "admiral ambitions". He would describe her as optimistic. #badenclay
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 22s

    Defence says worst case scenario was rent roll reverted back to the partners #badenclay
     
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    so much for a 'rigorous examination' of the books, Mr Cheeseman...
     
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    So BCs, OBW and GBC's bestie (who spoke to several times a week) know nothing about long affair....? And yet believe his money probs are small...All fooled ? Huh ?
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 57s

    Defence asks Mr Cheesman whether he was aware that Allison wanted a son. He says he was aware of that. #badenclay

    Mr Cheesman says he knew Allison was suffering depression and he knew Gerard found it hard. #badenclay

    Mr Cheesman says his company and Gerard's were both once listed in BRW's fastest growing companies. #badenclay

    Mr Cheesman says he remembers Nigel asking if he could find Gerard a lawyer after Allison disappeared. #badenclay
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m

    Mr Cheesman says Gerard would occasionally discuss Allison's depression #badenclay

    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 43s

    Both Mr Cheesman and Gerard were once in the BRW top 100 new starter businesses #badenclay
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 52s

    On April 20 Nigel was concerned there were a lot of police, wanted Gerard to get a lawyer #badenclay
     
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    Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 1m

    Robert Cheesman, friend of #badenclay says he knew Allison was suffering from depression, knew Gerard was finding it hard. @9NewsBrisbane

    Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 2m

    When asked by defence if Gerard was always optimistic, Mr Cheesman said "yes". #badenclay @abcnews
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 45s

    Mr Cheesman says he didn't think it was necessary to get a lawyer, the focus was on finding Allison #badenclay
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 12s

    Mr Cheesman says he blew Nigel off, told him it wasn't necessary and they should focus on finding Allison. #badenclay

    Mr Cheesman has been excused. #badenclay
     
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    Tishy Liar, liar, pants on fire

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    Rigour vs Thorough
     
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    11:04am: Mr Cheesman said he was aware of Mrs Baden-Clay's battle with depression.

    "I knew she was suffering depression and he was finding it difficult," Mr Cheesman said.

    "He occasionally opened up but then he closed down again."

    Mr Cheesman said Mr Baden-Clay's real estate agency Century 21 Westside was once nominated to be one of the companies in the BRW Top 100 Fast Starters list.

    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-9-week-3-20140624-3apn6.html#ixzz35Vx6EP3K
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 23s

    Another of Gerard's friends, business development manager Stuart Christ, is on the stand. #badenclay

    Mr Christ says he and Gerard went to school and university together. Their children went to school together. #badenclay

    Mr Christ says they have been very close. In recent years, probably not as close. #badenclay

    Mr Christ says he and his wife gave Gerard and Allison a loan for their business. #badenclay

    Mr Christ says in Feb, 2011, he got a call from Gerard saying the business wasn't going so well. "It was a fairly vague call." #badenclay
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 46s

    Stuart Christ, HP business development manager and friend of Gerard's since school, giving evidence #badenclay
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 4s

    Mr Christ says he went to see Gerard and was told their cash flow was in trouble following the floods. #badenclay

    Mr Christ says Gerard also told him he'd hired a lot of new staff and was paying more rent for their larger office. #badenclay
     
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    odd how Mr Cheeseman didn't pick up on Gerards mental issues..
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 13s

    Mr Christ says the meeting was between him, Gerard, Mr Cheesman and another friend. #badenclay

    Mr Christ says the business "would have been in severe trouble" in 2011 without a cash injection. #badenclay

    Mr Christ says the three friends loaned Gerard money and "pushed the business to reduce expenditure". #badenclay
     
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