The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 24th June - Trial Day 9, Week 3

[DrWatson]

And of course, the defence will likely ask "Could Allison have got those leaves tangled in her hair while running through the carport, for example, if she left in a huff?"

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 55s
Dr Guymer says he went to nearby scout camp and travelled along to complete a plant survey. He didn't find the other plants. #badenclay


Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Dr Guymer says he returned to Kholo Creek bridge area on July 19 to complete another survey. Chinese Elm and Eucalypt only found. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 46s
Dr Guymer says he returned to Kholo Creek on later occasions to "confirm" those species weren't there. Definitely not there. #badenclay


David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Dr Guymer returned to Kholo Creek a number of times, found no cat's claw creeper, crepe myrtle, fishbone fern or lilly pilly #badenclay

 

[Timmy]

And of course, the defence will likely ask "Could Allison have got those leaves tangled in her hair while running through the carport, for example, if she left in a huff?"

Shhhh!

 

[Total]

And of course, the defence will likely ask "Could Allison have got those leaves tangled in her hair while running through the carport, for example, if she left in a huff?"

Yes she could have. But those would have been fresh leaves not FALLEN leaves.

 

[BJsleuth]

Genuine question. - is that possible ?

Yes. Plant DNA in Forensic Botany

 

[Pastafarian]

Cats claw creeper
http://www.daff.qld.gov.au/plants/w...-weeds/photo-guide-to-weeds/cats-claw-creeper

 

[IBR]

Genuine question. - is that possible ?

Yep, I think so, unless I got something completely wrong. I'm doing a forensic science course on coursera atm. There, I just learned that individual DNA testing can be done on any species.

 

[DrWatson]

Yes she could have. But those would have been fresh leaves not FALLEN leaves.

"In that case, Dr Guymer, could they be consistent with Allison having rolled around the carport and back patio throwing a tantrum?"

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 49s
Dr Guymer did plant surveys around Brookfield to see where the six species were growing #badenclay

 

[Zim]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 55s
Dr Guymer says he went to nearby scout camp and travelled along to complete a plant survey. He didn't find the other plants. #badenclay


Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Dr Guymer says he returned to Kholo Creek bridge area on July 19 to complete another survey. Chinese Elm and Eucalypt only found. #badenclay

Is this the first time the jury have heard about the scout camp ?
I remember we all got pretty excited about this when we first heard about it...

 

[Total]

Yes. Plant DNA in Forensic Botany

:jail:

 

[AAAA]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 51s
Dr Guymer says the lillypilly leaf was a live, or recently fallen leaf. #badenclay


David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Grass and leaf fragments from a vehicle footwell were provided to Dr Guymer for analysis #badenclay


Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Dr Guymer also looked at grass and leaf fragments from the Baden-Clay car, including from the footwells. #badenclay

So if there were grass and leaf fragments in the car we can surmise that the car was never vacuumed...

 

[IBR]

And of course, the defence will likely ask "Could Allison have got those leaves tangled in her hair while running through the carport, for example, if she left in a huff?"

How on earth could all those fallen leaves have gotten entangled in her hair by running through the carport? Particularly those of the low growing species like the ferns?

 

[Forthegirls]

hopefully having flashbacks and sweating badly

Where are his hanky and tears now??? :tantrum:

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
That's it for today, back tomorrow #badenclay


Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 38s
Dr Guymer will continue his evidence tomorrow. Adjourned til 10am.






He'll be back!

 

[Pastafarian]

Dr Guymer certainly has done his "homework" !

 

[Freya1977]

So if there were grass and leaf fragments in the car we can surmise that the car was never vacuumed...

Perhaps they only thought to vacuum where Allison had been in the back, and not in the foot wells in the front.....

 

[they'll get you]

And the jury yesterday being asked to concentrate on the back of the carport, patio area too! All adding up I think

All the gardens have been ripped up at the house. Glad there's before photos

 

[IBR]

OMG, I won't be able to sleep tonight. I wish they would have had the time to hear all the evidence from Dr Guymer today.