The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 25th June - Trial Day 10, Week 3

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. JAM13

    JAM13 New Member

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    1. Emails to T.M committing to leaving ABC by July 1.
    2. Couldn't afford divorce BUT he did want to leave ABC, so he needed another way to do it.
    3. Stood to receive $1million dollars if ABC died, so he could pay off his $1million debt.
    4. Debts were long overdue, some were also about to be due.
    5. Didn't want to be with ABC anymore and her depression in a sense 'annoyed him'.

    These are all motives.

    7. Fingernail scratches on his face that he lied about being razor cuts.
    8. From journal entries and the affair with T.M, he clearly didn't respect Allison as a wife or a human being.
    9. Numerous lies to cover up the affair.
    10. Leaves in Allison's hair from the carport/backyard, which indicates she was dragged from the patio to the car.
    11. Blood+hair in the car.
    12. Phone connected to charger at 1am in the morning.

    This is all evidence that shows he is lying about the night of the 19th to cover SOMETHING up. What is that something? That something is the fact that he killed her. Some part of his family would easily have been involved in this and I wish one of them would be arrested as well.

    Yes it was premeditated and it SHOULD be enough to convict him.
     


  2. BJsleuth

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    Thanks for all the twitter posts. You've all done a great job! x

    I'm gobsmacked. I think we could have put together a better prosecution argument!
     
  3. UnfoldingTruth

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    Thanks. I had thought we were expecting another week as I was thinking it was to take 4 weeks. so 3-4weeks..maybe not cut short, like I was thinking it seemed.
     
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    I've been lurking and haven't had a lot of time in the last year to keep tabs on what is happening, but to those of you who have maintained the momentum, HUGE kudos to you all. I echo the poster who was impressed by how well you have all "looked after" Allison.

    I'm SOOOOO GLAD you are there Itsthevibe! wise words of advice from you too, because none of us wants to see ANY excuse for him GBC to get out of paying his dues.
     
  6. JAM13

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    Enquiring about insurance policies and wanted to leave his wife and committed to doing it by July 1.

    I believe so.
     
  7. Freya1977

    Freya1977 Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if Gerard will do a Jodi Arias and get up on the stand and claim self defence?

    :facepalm:
     
  8. Groundedgirl

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    Exactly my thoughts.

    I am starting to feel sick in the stomach.
     
  9. Doidy

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    I remember us all talking early on after his arrest whether he might do this. Alioop where are you? We need yr legal brain! 😊
     
  10. Trooper

    Trooper On Time Out

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    it is not unusual for the Defence to bring this matter to the courts attention at this point in a trial. This is not an exception. it is a tactic..

    it is a matter to be decided if .. IF the trial for murder should progress.. the defence will say. well. there isn't enough to claim its murder.. the prosecution will say, there is..
     
  11. digitup

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    Wow...I didn't see this ending so soon. Just catching up on the days events but I find it hard to accept that he would plead guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter given the financial situation he was in and what he had to benefit from her passing.. It all seemed way too convenient and premeditated. Either way I can't see the prosecution or the jury buying any of it, I certainly am not!
     
  12. Fuskier

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    I had similar thoughts Doc.
     
  13. itsthevibe

    itsthevibe Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    Defence in my opinion doesn't sound very confident in what they are putting forward, very nervous and unsure. Im finding this pivotal this whole legal discussion taking place. I feel unexpectedly sick and nervous.
     
  14. BigT

    BigT Well-Known Member

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    He should give evidence in his defence. If one is to shoot oneself in the foot, one must first take aim. :praying:
     
  15. Fluffykins

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    Good grief, I don't even remember it. I was just reading the online news at that point and didn't even know WS existed. Well, I guess they didn't ask her that question about the colour then. Disappointing. :sigh:
     
  16. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    marly are you saying maybe no defence witnesses ??????????????
     
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    2:52pm: The agreed facts also include:

    * That Allison Baden-Clay contacted an insurance broker on April 17, 2012, to reduce the sum ensure and the premium with respect to life insurance policies for herself and her husband.

    * That on May 1, 2012, Mr Baden-Clay contacted Asteron Life Insurance to determine how a claim should be made on his wife's life insurance policy.

    2:43pm: Crown prosecutor Todd Fuller QC is now reading a list of the agreed facts in the case to the jury.

    Among the agreed facts is that Mr Baden-Clay's mobile telephone was connected to a charging device at 1.48am on April 20, 2012.

    Mr Baden-Clay's mobile phone was removed from the charger at 6.18am the following day.

    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-10-week-3-20140625-3aqx5.html#ixzz35csigHAX
     
  18. BJsleuth

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    Next door?
     
  19. Trooper

    Trooper On Time Out

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    he isn't obliged to.. no one is , actually. he is quite within his rights to not give evidence..
     
  20. JK673

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    it cannot be thrown out surely.....not with all those agreed facts??

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