The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 25th June - Trial Day 10, Week 3

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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    Blood in the car?
    Phone off the Charger until 1.28
    Dogs at Wirrabura Road going crazy
    Car doors being heard slamming
     


  2. marlywings

    marlywings Former Member

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    Yes it's all smelling very ratty re TM although maybe she's treading carefully with BC family.

    I know in Gittany case one of the witnesses had police escort/protection. He was a witness to Gittany throwing Lisa Harnum over the balcony railings. He'd also moved to US some time before the trial began. I could understand him wanting protection especially from that family.
     
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    Too many variables. Could have been on DVD, VHS or downloaded/streamed or something discussed "at the water cooler"
     
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    Just a little bit hurt
     
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    I'm hoping the Prosecution case is that Alison died/was killed at home and that given her body was found at Kholo Creek and she could not have magically teleported herself there once deceased it must have been GBC and he thereby interfered with her body... Not sure if they need evidence he was there, but given they've closed their case, I'm hoping if the jury accepts she died at home at the hands of GBC then the logical conclusion would be that GBC moved Alison to her final resting place.
     
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    He said a hair attached to the blood stain was later confirmed with DNA as belonging to Ms Baden-Clay.


    PROSECUTOR Todd Fuller QC has opened the Crown case in the trial of Gerard Baden-Clay, 43, who stands accused of murdering his wife Allison June Baden-Clay on April 19, 2012.

    http://m.news.com.au/QLD/pg/2/fi11723293.htm
     
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    Possibly in a tell all book making $$$
     
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    It is very true, the truth will come out....it is just that I don't think she will be happy with it if it means her brother is found guilty.

    I wonder how she will go all this time praying for the truth to come out and then her brother is found guilty....will she accept that the truth was delivered??

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    Fair enough that was before she went missing. What about 10 minutes before he called the QPS he once again looked up the term "self incrimination"?
     
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    I think she is excused - period, Makara. No more TM at trial.
     
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    That was just opening up safari app I'm assuming.
     
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    In our Westminster Rule of Law, at the close of the prosecution's case during a criminal trial, the defendant may submit to the judge or magistrate that there is no case for the defendant to answer.

    If the judge does not accept the submission, the case continues and the defence must present their case.

    Because a judge's refusal to uphold such a submission may potentially bias a jury's decision, a submission of No Case to Answer is usually heard in the absence of the jury.

    This is normal and done sooooo often.....
     
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    Agreed! But was this evidence even led? There seems to be so much that wasn't :(
     
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    I think the verdict will hinge on the Judges summing up, and how he instructs the jurors
    on "reasonable doubt" it is such a vague concept and every juror may interpret it differently.
     
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    Again I don't mean to pick but I cannot agree with anything in your post.

    It is not a fact that ABC was murdered, nothing in today's proceedings (or at any stage during the trial for that matter) established conclusively that she was the victim of any kind of homicide. This will only be proved (in a legal sense) upon conviction and the rejection of all subsequent appeals, should any occur.

    In cases such as this, a Judge will never direct a jury to consider whether another person had the motive or opportunity to commit the crime. Barring an individual being specifically excluded at trial for whatever reason, literally any person on earth could be responsible, we do not know because no such evidence was led. The only exception is when the defence nominates a specific person who they believe may be responsible, this was the case recently during Peter Cowan's trial for the murder of Daniel Morcombe. Douglas Jackway was put forward by the defence as an alternative and as such, the jury was required to consider whether he was involved and if so, the extent of his involvement.

    I realise that emotions run high in cases such as this but unfounded and just plain incorrect speculation just confuses the issue for those watching on the sideline who have limited legal knowledge.
     
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    ........for the appeal :)
     
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    I think you just provided your own precedence.
     
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