The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 2nd July - Trial Day 14, Week 3

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. BJsleuth

    BJsleuth New Member

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    My Aunt had an expression "Your kids would sleep on a barbed wire fence!" We expanded that with our kids "They'd sleep on a barbed wire fence during a hurricane!"
     


  2. BJsleuth

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    I wish she'd told her Mum or Dad, a sibling or friends. It would have helped protect her.
     
  3. Trooper

    Trooper Well-Known Member

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    really.. it's just a matter of has he placated the jury enough... 12 people. people like you and me..

    his constant referral to his placatory skills would have me asking.. is he placating me??

    did he come across as a Master Placator?? in his own eyes, he believed he was successful at this ,... he placated everyone, and deliberately so.. that was his intention, his answer to every single problem that he faced ,.. women, banks, business partners, club partners, parents, sister, brother, children, wife, police, judge and jury..

    his only problem was.. he , silly boy, told everyone on that jury that he was into placatory mode ..... this was something he should have let them pick up by themselves, but oh no.. .. he had to underline it, sentence after sentence..

    he is a defence lawyers utter nightmare..
     
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    So how do they stop the jury from media stuff over the next 4 days?
     
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    Doesn't every mother feel like this at some stage. I have always found mother guilt and feeling inadequate a side effect of motherhood. lol.
     
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    You could also say "it is foolish to be completely confident that someone without a history of depression isn't going to take their life"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    PrimeSuspect Under the Milky Way

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    qft. Jmo
     
  8. Consider

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    They had also run cross country that day: sleep guaranteed.
     
  9. BJsleuth

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    I agree wholeheartedly.
     
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    A bunch of sunflowers to all who helped with the updates...thankyou!!

    A bunch of sunflowers to everyone for being here for Allison...thankyou!!

    Another bunch for Kate @CourierMail....fantastic work!!

    David Murray is not too shabby either so a bunch for him also :)


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  11. Sor Juana

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    I wonder if there are witnesses who could counter Gerard's claims that he indeed had no sex with Allison for some years, and on other things as well. May be friends or doctors could provide something like Allison's own words on her sex life or prescriptions for the pill from GP? If one false claim is exposed then it will be easier for the jury to disbelieve him.
    Anyway, the prosecution looks disappointing. The had 2 years to prepare but their case still does not look very solid. IMHO
     
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    But you are telling the WHOLE WORLD about her depression now when you think it will protect you! How about protecting her MEMORY!
     
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    Allison was feeling better even by BC testimony.

    She was spending a bit more time with trusted girlfriends talking...
    And agrees with what they tell her:

    She has skills, education (GBC's not paying her to work (!) or parent & there's no love or loyalty from him)
    She CAN make money
    She and the girls do have somewhere to go
    She's tried everything else...

    She's thinking, thinking, thinking (not WATCHING the footy show) jmo...
    I'm too intelligent to stick at something that doesn't work, that I can't fix

    (And maybe: looks at the phone and sees one item she'd missed...)
    Counsellors advice isn't changing what he gets up to

    Enough.

    Calls him out - calmly (let's go with GBC on this one) and in her non-confrontational way... finally decides her and the kids are taking up Mrs Dickie's suggestion to move in with them on the Gold Coast.

    Allison begins demonstrating to GBC standing there aghast that she's serious by packing the girls toys that are near the car anyway (she's not going to be dramatic and wake the girls by turning on their lights and packing their suitcases)

    GBC worst nightmare (he LIED TO HER FOR 9 YEARS TO AVOID THIS!)

    HE SNAPS!

    jmo

    It's official: I just fell (SWAN DIVED) off the fence!
     
  14. Sor Juana

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    Exactly right!
     
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    Channel nine now reporting MAJOR development in the trial
     
  16. Amee

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    Injury under right shoulder....

    Accused murderer Gerard Baden-Clay has denied smothering his wife as she frantically fought for her life.

    He said he was "offended" by suggestions he'd killed the woman he loved, and then left his sleeping children home alone to callously dispose of her body.

    The former real estate agent, who remained calm under cross examination, told Mr Fuller he had no idea how he got an injury under his right shoulder, and denied overpowering his wife quickly.

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/qld/a/24364622/more-questions-for-baden-clay/?cmp=twitter
     
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    Ok....how friggin stupid......juat reporting that the trial is done until Monday
     
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    The only concern I have is that juries like to have a cause of death. I just hope they understand that the cause of death truly was a homicide and not suicide or an accident.
     
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