The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 2nd July - Trial Day 14, Week 3

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. JK673

    JK673 New Member

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    Why??
     
  2. Trooper

    Trooper Well-Known Member

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    yu can trust your instincts on that one, and the jury will pick it up, too.
     
  3. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    You're right BJ and I don't think they ever found Kerry Whelan's body, did they?
    Bernie Whelan was under severe suspicion.
     
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    laserdisc10 New Member

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    As he said, he doesn't believe going back over the past is helpful
     
  5. Liadan

    Liadan Well-Known Member

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    Doc I have never used this APP so I don't know if from a bar of soap. But in court they were saying that the colour dot that appeared would likely have been GBC's phone and not Allisons. That the app is accurate but not more than 500 m so I think the colour was blue meaning that it was the the position of the owner of the phone and not the position of the phone they were looking for - if that makes any sense. The position of the phone they were looking for appears as a different colour (green) so I think the fact is only one dot - GBC's phone and that Allisons phone did not seem to be there.
     
  6. Trooper

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    They haven't found Kylie Laboutcherie s body either, but Paul Wilkinson sits in a cell and will be there for the rest of his life..
     
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    Thanks Laiden! Great post. Love hearing about these two champs making that grub squirm !
    Hollow victory but still like it. This guy can't walk.
    Btw- from experience as the girls got older they would be harder to manipulate with his false stories of how good of a daddy he was . Background pressure almost daily I would suspect.
     
  8. Liadan

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    They are actually page numbers from a self help book that Allison was reading.
     
  9. Amee

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    second bid for bail.

    Mr Doyle said Baden-Clay had a 'find my friends' application on his phone but at 6.41am on April 20 it was "likely it had never been used".

    Justice Applegarth: "It would be a pretty stupid thing to say you had used that application when you hadn't."


    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...re-supreme-court/story-e6frg6n6-1226536987434
     
  10. marlywings

    marlywings Former Member

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    Mr Doyle said Baden-Clay had a 'find my friends' application on his phone but at 6.41am on April 20 it was "likely it had never been used".

    Justice Applegarth: "It would be a pretty stupid thing to say you had used that application when you hadn't."
    http://m.couriermail.com.au/news/qu...re-supreme-court/story-e6freoof-1226536987434
     
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    From GBC (admittedly through my eyes)
    Oh My God! A body has been found! Wonder if the body might be my beloved missing wife Allison?
    Oh please God, no. Not some foul play?
    Please Taxi ( or whoever), please just get me there to Kholo Bridge ASAP.
    Forget the expense. Been worried sick to distraction 11 days. (Mentioning the minutes)
    Insurance money , says someone?
    Am deeply OFFENDED by that mention. How dare you or anyone talk about money at a time like this!!!
    Feel sick and apprehensive and I am so sorry if I have offended first and foremost, my beloved wife. Admit to wee tiff or something, but by the love of God, would do anything to resolve that tiff.
    Need to see that body. (At least can rule out that it is NOT Allison)
     
  13. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    I found that hilarious. Thanks for the laugh even though it's true and serious.
     
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    Thanks Liadan You had me wetting myself and biting my nails I felt as though I was in the box with Gerry LOL.
     
  15. angelalansbury

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    I am a psychiatric nurse and work in the forensic system. Narcissists are an absolute nightmare to deal with in the forensic setting as they are in real life.

    I have got a little insight here to share so you can get an insight into how a true narcissist actually views themselves and the wider world.

    The external image of the narcissist is the polar opposite of his/her internal world. On the outside the classic narcissist is frequently physically attractive, highly self confident, overflowing with charm. You feel the strong handshake, the eyes that penetrate your gaze, the rising of the jaw that tells you they are sure of every step. They are in command of their lives, unafraid and sure-footed. They spin phenomenal visions that are fueled by their grandiosity. Many people are fascinated by the narcissist in full bloom, exhibiting all of his persuasive gifts. When you are with a master narcissist you believe that anything is possible and can be accomplished with ease. The narcissistic view of life has no limits. They inspire awe in most people if they are high level narcissists who have mastered control and manipulation of others.

    Beneath the glittery, irresistible surface, the inner world of the narcissist is empty, bleak and dark. There is a lifeless quality to the inner narcissist. These individuals are unacquainted with their unconscious feelings about themselves. They have no insight and believe their finely spun delusions. They convince others that they are superior and super human. Their followers are blindly loyal and believe they can do no wrong. Deep in the unconscious the narcissist is drowning in his self loathing and fraudulence. He feels empty and emotionally rudderless.

    Pressure, self hatred, psychological lifelessness, unending restlessness and rage build up in the narcissist within the unconscious. The narcissist cannot contain these overpowering feelings so he projects them like bilious vomit on to those in his close environment. This includes his/her spouses, ex-spouses, children, siblings and in-laws. When they seethe with volcanic rage, the sounds emitted are bestial. Some of them let loose in public. Others save these ugly, rancorous scenes for private venues.

    If you share your life with a narcissist, despite the role that you play, know that this person is never going to change. This is a severe personality disorder that is fixed and rigid. The narcissist lives in a psychological darkness that pulls others down into its depths. His/her demands, hatreds, treacheries, mounting cruelties, crimes of the heart mount as the darkness envelops him. He is unconcerned since the narcissist is out of touch with himself. It is those around him who are devastated by his internal psychological poisons. At the core he is putrid like a corpse that has been lying in the sun, giving off the lingering odor of death and decay. How long will you stay and be disastrously affected by this individual. Are there enough material rewards to cover up the stench of his vile deeds and deceits. Listen and you will hear the voice of your intuition rising, speaking to you in a compelling tone, telling you: “Get out now. Leave. Don’t stay or you will be trapped and lose yourself.”

    There are many who have successfully removed themselves from the narcissist’s dark inner world. They have re-discovered themselves as individuals. The cracks of light have lengthened. They are in full light now and traveling a different road. Know that you can leave this dark place, that you don’t belong there.

    reference: www.thenarcissistinyourlife.com
     
  16. BJsleuth

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    1. Nobody asked him.
    2. Nobody told him to.
     
  17. BJsleuth

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    No she was never found.
     
  18. Cattail

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    Thanks Doc. Would it also be too late for the carbon dioxide levels in the blood?

    Edit. Thanks again , I see you answered this part already :)
     
  19. DunnoZo

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    bbm. This, to me is the worst part. How many children out there are growing up thinking that's ok. IT OFFENDS OUR COLLECTIVE CONSIENCE!

    I am overwhelmed with emotion today, so sad for Allison and what a horror she lived through. A bit disappointed in the whole trial, hoping all those unanswered questions would be put to rest. I didn't know Allison personally, but saw her often in passing. Now I wish I had been her friend. I normally would avoid maccas at all costs, but I'd like to raise a glass to a lady who represents so many of us. Thank you WSleuthers all, from the bottom of my heart, you're wisdom, your wit, and mostly, all of your compassion.:yourock:
     
  20. BJsleuth

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    Thanks Liadan. Do you know which book by chance?
     
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