The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 7th July - Trial Day 15

[JK673]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 27s
Byrne says Dr David Wells also examined photographs of the scratches. #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 49s
Dr David Wells did not examine Gerard, based opinion on photos - defence #badenclay

Katrina Blowers ‏@katrinablowers 2m
Defence says witness agreed any sharp object dragged across the surface of skin could cause marks like #badenclay 's. @7NewsBrisbane

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 25s
Byrne is pointing out the limitations of experts whose opinions are that the marks are fingernail scratches, not shaving cuts #badenclay


David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 38s
Dr Wells had considerable difficulty accepting the marks could be from a razor - defence #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 46s
Byrne says Dr Wells said he had "considerable difficulty" reconciling scratches with razor. #badenclay

 

[Amee]

Sorry guys I really need to go for a few minutes. If someone can take over my tweeters that would be great. I'll be back soon.

Sorry Freya, I would but need to go out myself soon , I have a sick puppy

 

[JK673]

I'm trying to get tweetdeck to open.

anyone know freya's tweeters?

got em

 

[missfisher]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 50s
Gerard's dad was a JP and former insurance salesman. He arranged insurance in 2000 for Gerard and Allison - defence #badenclay

Don't see the relevance of NBC being a JP. I'm a JP, and you can't act as one for family members anyway..

 

[Amee]

I'm trying to get tweetdeck to open.

anyone know freya's tweeters?

https://twitter.com/hashtag/badenclay?f=realtime

she was doing David

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 6m

Dr Leslie Griffiths said any sharp object across the skin could also cause marks such as those - defence #badenclay

 

[Anonthemouse]

I'm trying to get tweetdeck to open.

anyone know freya's tweeters?

Jk seems to be doing them all

 

[samanthaj]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 58s
Byrne to jury: use your common sense when thinking about the "shaving scrapes" on Gerard's right cheek. #badenclay

Can anyone take over from me for a bit? I have something I need to do

Freya I can help - who are you doing?

Update - thanks JK, you're all over it!

 

[JK673]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 2m
Byrne says Dr Wells said he had "considerable difficulty" reconciling scratches with razor. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 2m
Byrne says Dr Wells believed it could have been fingernails, could have been a number of other different things. #badenclay


Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 41s
Byrne is now giving an overview of the scratch experts. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 16s
Byrne says Dr Stark said the only person who knows how injuries are caused are the people who were present. #badenclay

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 1m
Byrne - Gerard's never deviated from the fact he did this shaving #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Gerard's evidence has always been he did this shaving - defence #badenclay

 

[JK673]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 44s
Byrne says tragically we only have one person to tell us. And Gerard has told us under oath how scratches were caused. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 7s
Byrne says the jury might think the injuries were caused by something other than a razor blade. That's not their role. #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
The only person present when those injuries were inflicted was Gerard - defence #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 45s
You might think they were probably or likely caused by something other than a razor blade - defence #badenclay

 

[Tishy]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 50s
Gerard's dad was a JP and former insurance salesman. He arranged insurance in 2000 for Gerard and Allison - defence #badenclay

Don't see the relevance of NBC being a JP. I'm a JP, and you can't act as one for family members anyway..

A sly implication of righteousness. IMOOOOOOOO

I used to work at Hngry Jacks, therefore I could now be a Chef..

 

[JK673]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 30s
That's not you role. Your role is to exclude a razor, can't be done - defence #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 12s
Byrne says the Crown has to exclude the razor - and they can't. #badenclay


OK caught up

 

[Pastafarian]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 2m
Byrne says Dr Wells said he had "considerable difficulty" reconciling scratches with razor. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 2m
Byrne says Dr Wells believed it could have been fingernails, could have been a number of other different things. #badenclay


Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 41s
Byrne is now giving an overview of the scratch experts. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 16s
Byrne says Dr Stark said the only person who knows how injuries are caused are the people who were present. #badenclay

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 1m
Byrne - Gerard's never deviated from the fact he did this shaving #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Gerard's evidence has always been he did this shaving - defence #badenclay

BBM .....and one of them just happens to be dead

 

[Freya1977]

I'm back guys, I'll keep going with those tweets....too many and too fast for one person! Amee do you need me to do Caroline?

 

[MadDoc]

Then at the end of the day, all the lawyers go for drinks together.

The law is an *advertiser censored*, to quote Oliver Twist.

What are you suggesting the lawyers should do after the end of the proceedings? Continue to argue/ oppose each other?

Medical people working in hospital may have a similar dilemma. Dr A might be looking after a patient in bed 1 who has been assaulted, Dr B is looking after his assailant in bed 2. Should Drs A and B throw out their usual friendship and professional courtesy and start to fight and try to obstruct each other from tending to their patient(s)?

 

[JK673]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 29s
Byrne: Consider scrapes carefully "This is so important. This is a murder trial. A person is on trial (for) his life for murder" #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 54s
Byrne having another go at media grabs and sensationalism #badenclay

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Byrne having another go at media grabs and sensationalism #badenclay
That's not you role. Your role is to exclude a razor, can't be done - defence #badenclay

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 1m
Byrne: Consider scrapes carefully "This is so important. This is a murder trial. A person is on trial (for) his life for murder" #badenclay

 

[JK673]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 37s
Prosecution wants to use marks for basis to show he has lied - defence #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 12s
Byrne says they jury must bear in mind that the scratches themselves do not convict Gerard. #badenclay

 

[they'll get you]

Maybe Allison had her friends dresses laid out in the back and he just dropped her body onto them. Who knows, but he had a few hours after the phone was back on charge to tidy whatever needed to be tidy and get rid of the evidence

Mrs Dickie knew it had been cleaned.
raying:

:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

Huge hugs for Allison's family and friends.

:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

 

[Freya1977]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 42s
These scratches, whatever they are caused by, do not convict Gerard - defence #badenclay
That because he has lied he is guilty of murder - defence #badenclay
Prosecution wants to use marks for basis to show he has lied - defence #badenclay

 

[enthralled]

Katrina Blowers ‏@katrinablowers 1m
#badenclay defence re marks on face says GBC called police at a time when his face was 'open for all to see'. @7NewsBrisbane


Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 1m
Defence "He called them (police)at a time his face was open for all to see, there was no attempt to conceal it." @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay


David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
He told you they were caused in a rush with an old razor - defence #badenclay
That's his account. Contrary to that you've heard from a series of experts - defence #badenclay

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 1m
Defence: "Clearly Gerard Baden-Clay was not concerned about those marks. He never gave an alternative explanation." #badenclay

Well how on earth would he be expected to conceal them at this early stage. The only possible way I can come up with is by wearing a scarf pulled up around his jaws or a fake beard. He did nothing good by not trying to conceal them because there was nothing he could do.