The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 7th July - Trial Day 15

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  1. JK673

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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 1m
    Byrne says Gerard, Allison and Nigel and Elaine, who'd been looking after children, discussed the birth and Allison went to bed. #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 1m
    Byrne says the next day Allison had a hair appointment. #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 1m
    Byrne says the hairdresser says Allison was "a bit stressed" when she sat down. #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 1m
    Byrne says the hairdresser asked whether Allison was still sick. Allison says she was and it wasn't going away. #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 58s
    Byrne is discussing evidence given about sertraline, an antidepressant, which itself can cause anxiety. #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 22s
    Byrne is discussing Seratonin syndrome, where the body has to deal with a different amount of that chemical in the brain. #badenclay
     


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    Freya1977 Well-Known Member

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    Because she was annoyed at the fact they'd screwed up her hair twice already. Duh!
     
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    Hahaha - not implying anything ;)
     
  4. Total

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    Let everyone be perfectly clear....we are still talking about a supposed finished affair, that is still making Allison feel this way at this point in time. Byrne is trying very hard to merge all the affairs into one. Gerred restarted his wallpapering and probably did some freezes on top as well. Any woman would have a second sense and a gut feeling....Allison was doing well considering what she dealt with at the time in April. Mr Gerred Pinocchio playing everyone at once, Allison for pretending to be the husband somewhat interested in maintaining his marriage (pfftt!!), TM ....possibly for being able to keep the business afloat, everyone and anyone......

    Allison was too good and too committed to her wedding vows. The Baden/Walton/Clay gang should look hard at their inept and immoral defence of Gerred....., if it had been me dealing with such 'dastardly' behaviour I would have run for the hills....and taken him for the little he was worth...
     
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    This is not what GBC told the police the following morning ...
     
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    no one is going to believe that ALISON is distressed about the male child thing. EVERYONE over the age of 10 knows that its the father who carries the genetic code for male or female... Wouldn't matter who Gerard was slipping it to, he wouldn't make sons. His brother could, and his father could, but Gerard didn't have it in him. EVERYONE knows this...
     
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    I think Aimee said she had to go out?

    Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 42s
    In less than a third of cases do people leave suicide notes #badenclay
    Such modifications can lead to a confused state #badenclay
    The defence is again reminding the jury that Allison's depression medication had just not long been altered #badenclay
    She told the the hairdresser that she wasn't feeling well #badenclay
     
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    Why is it that when I go to thank some posts it doesn't allow me too. Well said Firsttimer
     
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    Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 54s
    The jury is also being reminded that Gerard doesn't have to prove his own innocence #badenclay
    The defence is again stressing that Gerard has no idea what happened to Allison #badenclay
     
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    Well said, Miss Fisher. It is worth remembering that these professionals are doing the best with what they've got, on instructions from a client.

    Many in Mr Byrne QC's shoes would be hard pressed to find much to say beyond 'Dolly did it'.
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 58s
    Evidence is Allison always wanted a son. On April 18, she found out about birth of nephew - defence #badenclay
     
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    This is beyond a joke now, no? The link they are trying to draw between Allison initially wanting a son (to carry on her husbands name?!) and her brother-in-law having a boy years later? To even suggest that this could have set off a depressive state that led to suicide.......!
     
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    every juror would have done biology 1.... forget it, Gerard.. you . are. going. down.
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 3m
    Byrne is discussing Seratonin syndrome, where the body has to deal with a different amount of that chemical in the brain. #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 1m
    Byrne says the defence has no onus of proof. He says they can ask jury to consider possibilities. #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 57s
    Byrne asks jurors to consider the evidence from Allison's mother, Gerard and Nigel Baden-Clay that she always wanted a son. #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 44s
    Byrne says Gerard's brother's newborn son was the first male grandson. #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 53s
    Byrne says Allison, after finding out about the birth, shortly after went to bed. #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 35s
    Byrne says Allison was able to take up to 100mg of Zoloft a day if she was feeling down. #badenclay

    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · now
    Byrne says the medication kicks in after about six hours. Says that's when she was "slumped" at the hairdressers. #badenclay
     
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    Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 30s
    Defence's Byrne is asking jury to consider scenario relating to Allison's depression in lead up to her death #badenclay


    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
    She's had a full day of work, made a hair appointment - defence #badenclay
    Thursday April 19 she took Zoloft, knew she could increase dose if needed - defence #badenclay
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · now
    Byrne says the hair appointment clashed with a parent teacher interview. "Why would a mother do that," he says. #badenclay

    WTF! This might have been the first time she did that. ANd GBC probably told her to
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 10s
    Byrne says after leaving Allison on the couch watching the Footy Show, we don't know what happened. #badenclay

    WHAT A LOAD OF COD-SWOLLOP!
     
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    She had been to the hairdressers the previous night and needed to meet her friend at 7am. No way she went for a walk.
     
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    4:15pm: "Let's look to see if there was any other factor, any other stressor, a trigger for a recurrence or relapsing in the depressive illness. In particular, let's talk about this one ..." Mr Byrne said.

    "Allison so wanted a son after having two girls."

    She gave birth to her third daughter in 2006.

    Mr Byrne urged to the jury to factor in, "as far as a trigger is concerned", the birth of Mr Baden-Clay's nephew Cameron Baden-Clay in Canada on the evening of April 18, 2012.


    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-15-week-5-20140707-3bhb6.html#ixzz36lGFoZr1
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
    Unless she was depressed and trying to make herself feel better. More groans in public gallery #badenclay

    Are the press in an overflow court or are the public gallery groaning in the actual court??
     
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