The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 8th July - Trial Day 16

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. drsleuth

    drsleuth Well-Known Member

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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m

    Gerard is in court, ready for trial day 16 #badenclay @couriermail


    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 15s

    We're in court for day 16 of the Baden-Clay trial. We'll hear the end of the defence closing argument this morning. @couriermail
     


  2. Walk A Mile

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    Not a BC.

    Poor Allison. So tortured by her new nephew's arrival that she never once addressed anticipating it in her private journal, so twisted by longing to carry on the family name that she killed herself over the birth of a boy who would carry on the celebrated family name; a descendant of the famous Baden Powell through a female line.

    Or, poppycock.
     
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    I asked that on twitter and had two responses by people that it was because the surname would be Walton..... last I checked it didn't matter what your surname is, your parents parents are STILL your grandparents HENCE you are their grandkid - son or daughter.....

    Weird that some people today THINK that way? not the grandson because it is the DAUGHTER's child???

    :maddening:
     
  4. Tishy

    Tishy Liar, liar, pants on fire

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    .....because he's the Son of the daughter.

    Daughters just don't count you know.

    Perhaps why she now presents as Baden-Walton. Which should actually be Clay-Walton.

    Whatever.
     
  5. drsleuth

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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 20s

    The jury has entered the court. Gerard Baden-Clay, defence and prosecution all waiting for the judge to enter.
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 20s

    The jury has entered the court. Gerard Baden-Clay, defence and prosecution all waiting for the judge to enter.
     
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    It certainly is a very 1950's patriarchal defence, which leads me to think that the same person who was so hasty to get a lawyer, and the same person who was so hasty to fill in the life insurance claim is the one who has concocted the body of this argument.
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 24s

    The judge is telling the jury they won't be sequestered. Up to them if they want to deliberate on Fridays and weekends. #badenclay


    Michael Byrne QC is on his feet continuing his closing argument. #badenclay

    Byrne is discussing Gerard's evidence. #badenclay
     
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    Bugger - just got a reminder on my phone I have a hairdresser appointment....grrrr
     
  10. possumheart

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    I just want to say how much I appreciate the tweeters, even if I don't get to thank every individual post.
     
  11. drsleuth

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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 31s

    Byrne says a person charged with a crime is not under obligation to give evidence. #badenclay


    Byrne says Gerard spent some period explaining his life with Allison, their relationship, their problems. #badenclay

    Byrne: You might think that he didn't hold back. #badenclay


    Byrne says if the jury thinks Gerard's evidence is credible and reliable, they have to find him not guilty of murder. #badenclay
     
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    Some time !!! Ha
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 27s

    Byrne says Gerard has denied killing his wife, denied dumping her body, denied leaving his girls home alone to do so. #badenclay


    Byrne says if they think his evidence was not convincing, but left them in doubt as to what happened, he is still not guilty. #badenclay
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m

    You might think he didn't hold back when he spoke about the evidence and his own foibles - defence #badenclay

    Prosecution case does not prove guilt - defence #badenclay

    He has under oath denied killing his wife, disposing his body, leaving his girls at the time - defence #badenclay

    He is entitled to give his account - defence #badenclay
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 38s

    He is presumed to be innocence unless evidence overwhelms beyond reasonable doubt - defence #badenclay
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 34s

    If you are left with a reasonable doubt it's your duty to acquit - defence #badenclay
     
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    Is anyone else able to help with some of the tweets. I can do Kate's ???? Please
     
  18. Forensics

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    who do you need?
     
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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 49s

    He didn't have to give evidence, he elected to, had to relive matters and exposed himself to cross - defence #badenclay

    Prosecutor, as expected to do, attacked Gerard - defence #badenclay

    Gerard wanted to tell you a detailed history - defence #badenclay

    Abhorrent he would leave those children alone in the night - defence #badenclay
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 26s

    Byrne says Gerard is presumed to be innocent. The Crown has to have proved beyond reasonable doubt that he is guilty. #badenclay

    Byrne says Gerard didn't have to give evidence. He elected to do so. #badenclay

    Byrne says Gerard exposed himself to cross examination, where he was attacked by prosecutor Todd Fuller. #badenclay

    Byrne says Gerard wanted to tell the jury a detailed history of his life. #badenclay

    Byrne says Gerard's lapses were in respect to women "and keeping quiet about such liaisons". #badenclay

    Byrne: It's not something shared with family, it's not something shared with friends. #badenclay
     
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