The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 8th July - Trial Day 16

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  1. BatWoman

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    his best advice yet
     


  2. Thinking

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    Poppycock indeed.

    This is maybe why OW changed her surname to Baden-Walton, so her son could carry through the Baden name? That whole Baden name thing is so weird to me. I wouldn't blame Allison's girls if they change their surname as soon as legally possible.
     
  3. Amee

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    Ive been doing Davids??
     
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    9:45am: The 16th day of the trial is about to resume in Court 11.

    Gerard Baden-Clay's defence barrister Michael Byrne QC will end his closing address to the jury, before Crown prosecutor Todd Fuller QC begins his final address today.

    Yesterday ...

    * Mr Byrne said there are too many gaps in the Crown's circumstantial case against his client. He pointed to the lack of forensic evidence linking Mr Baden-Clay to the crime scene at Kholo Creek where his wife's body was found. He also pointed to the lack of blood in the house and car port.

    * Mr Byrne conceded Mr Baden-Clay had been a serial adulterer during his marriage but said his infidelity did not amount to evidence in the case against him.

    * The defence again pointed to Mrs Baden-Clay's history with depression to suggest she stepped out for a walk in the early hours of the morning of April 20, 2012, to "clear her head" and "at some time and for some reason" ended up in the river.


    9:55am: The trial will again be broadcast into two other courtrooms, such is the high level of public interest in the case.

    The proceedings will be broadcast into the Banco Court which seats 147 people.


    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-16-week-5-20140708-3bjkw.html#ixzz36pbONgGE
     
  5. drsleuth

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    Thanks Amee, that's great!!
     
  6. Amee

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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m

    He was attacked for deceiving people about his liaisons and accepted he had - defence #badenclay

    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 52s

    But the deception was limited to affairs - defence #badenclay
     
  7. Texx

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    *insert sarcastic font here* Denied loving TM, denied giving her a date whereby he will have left his wife....oh wait
     
  8. Amee

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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 45s

    Gerard would not kill his wife in cold blood, temper would not explode, no history of that in his life - defence #badenclay
     
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    10:12am: Mr Byrne displayed two PowerPoint slides to the court.

    The first read: "Gerard Baden-Clay is presumed to be innocent. He may be convicted only if the prosecution establishes that he is guilty of the offence charged."

    The second read: "If you are left with a reasonable doubt about guilty, your duty is to acquit: that is, to find Gerard Baden-Clay not guilty."


    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-16-week-5-20140708-3bjkw.html#ixzz36pbf9E8z
     
  10. drsleuth

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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 26s

    Byrne says Gerard's only deception related to not broadcasting his "straying" particularly from his wife. #badenclay

    Byrne: He admitted all of that and you saw him speak to that. #badenclay

    Byrne: Gerard Baden-Clay is not a person who would cold bloodedly kill his wife and mother of his children.

    Byrne says Gerard is not the type of person to explode in temper. #badenclay

    Byrne says apart from Allison "slipping" back into depression and the birth of her male nephew, things were as they always were. #badenclay

    Byrne is urging the jury to pay attention to the details. #badenclay
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 11s

    Byrne is urging the jury to think of the scenario of waking up to find their partner gone in their own lives. #badenclay
     
  12. Shinpathy

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    More and more desperation of clutching at the straws, abusing the law...

    pleading with the jury... sickening stuff.
     
  13. Amee

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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 47s

    Allison was slipping back into her recurrent depression, affected by birth of her nephew - defence #badenclay

    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m

    Gerard would not kill his wife in cold blood, temper would not explode, no history of that in his life - defence #badenclay

    Apart from that it was a normal time in the Baden-Clay household - defence #badenclay

    Pay attention to the little things - defence #badenclay

    Think if your own wife went missing in the morning, you'd go through a process - defence #badenclay

    He called police three times to get them involved, does not portray someone hiding - defence #badenclay
     
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    Likewise Allison had no history of self harm.
     
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    I hope it doesn't clash with a parent teacher interview!
     
  16. Amee

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    David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 46s

    Gerard told mistress Toni McHugh to just tell the truth, that's not a man who's recently killed his wife - defence #badenclay

    Police came to his house, he said they were doing their job - defence #badenclay

    He was trying to help them - defence #badenclay
     
  17. drsleuth

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    I am doing Kate's & Amee is doing David's & you can do anyone elses!!
     
  18. MadDoc

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    there is bound to be some doubt remaining...but is this doubt "reasonable"? That is the question.
     
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    How long until he STFU?
     
  20. drsleuth

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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 43s

    Byrne is detailing the phone calls Gerard made to police, to family and friends. #badenclay

    Byrne says this is not a person who is hiding, who violently murdered his wife the night before. #badenclay

    Byrne says they should consider one piece of evidence - Gerard telling Toni to tell police the truth. #badenclay

    Byrne says that is not someone who has just violently killed his wife. #badenclay

    Byrne says there are two possibilities. One is Gerard murdered his wife and dumped her body. #badenclay

    Byrne says second is Gerard was worried about his wife and expected her to be found at any moment. #badenclay

    Byrne says it is telling that Gerard on the morning of April 20 told police about the affair. #badenclay

    Byrne: If she was dead, and he knew she was dead, why would he care? Says Gerard had asked dad and sister to leave room. #badenclay

    Byrne says the jury must deliver a unanimous verdict. #badenclay
     
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