The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 8th July - Trial Day 16

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. Total

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    Hi Toe and Possum
    I think it is more damning than that. Allison saw Carmel Ritchie the first time by herself. I think the Crown must have built up a timeline and I think that the email from Gerred aka Bruce to TM stating that he loved her etc blah blah blah was written at the same time as Allison was having her first meeting with Camel Ritchie.
     
  2. alioop

    alioop Verified Attorney (AU)

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    Perhaps he took the captiva to "look" for Allison as whatever he needed to dispose of inc phone was already in that car and he didn't want his dad who had arrived by then or the girls to see those items being transferred to the prado.
    Also perhaps for the same reason Todd suggested he took the captiva to Kholo, it was less conspicuous if he was using it to dispose of items.
     
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    Glad you mentioned it Catswhiskers re clothing Allison had on after hairdresser. I was a page behind and just posted regarding Fuller saying she may have already had the clothes on that she was found in.
     
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    Really? Fuller QC was wearing a yellow tie? Yellow for Allison's favorite colour.
    If true, reminds me of the police force members and others who wore white ribbons at the trial of Simon Gitany.
    The significance? White ribbons; violence against women. This trial is about .....
    I was extremely touched by this gesture. The gesture was silent. The problem was and is silent.
     
  5. Makara

    Makara Former Member

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    Well said Thinking and I totally agree. I suggested last year some time that Allison probably came home and dressed in her comfy clothes that doubled as pj's. One of the girls said that Allison was wearing her pyjamas but didn't describe the colour etc. GBC seized on this and embellished it all, as he's want to do. He fell flat on his face with that one too. :jail:
     
  6. BreakingNews

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    Such a good summary, Liadan. Perfectly said.
     
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    Ummm, I'll have what ever she's having . :toastred::crosseyed:
     
  8. Forensics

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    I think Fuller's saying there were no pyjamas, the clothes that Alison was wearing watching TV that night were those she was found in. As several people have said in earlier posts, the baggy pants Alison was wearing were more likely those one would wear to lounge around at home and not the type to wear out walking.

    Sorry everyone I replied to this earlier post and have now noticed it has been well and truly covered in more recent posts.
     
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    Just an overwhelming need to post...after reading Marleywings tribute and sunflower picture to QC Fuller..couldn't get the quote post function to work, but that is I immaterial...
    My point is, just felt thus amazing surge of energy from beautiful Allison as I saw this post of thanks from Marley.. I truly believe her Spirit is guiding this crown summation....I just had an overwhelming feeling of her thanks, guidance and affirmation for QC a Fuller. Can't explain , but just need to share this certainty xx
     
  10. possumheart

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    Thanks total, that's what I thought too.
     
  11. catswhiskers

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    Racking my brains here about what else Fuller might still have to add tomorrow - he seems to have covered everything perfectly. How about the order in which GBC contacted various folks that morning, including the early call to the police and the offhand manner in which he spoke to Allison's parents when he eventually got around to speaking to them.
    My take on the police contact is that he was itching to get the show on the road as it were. Full of sickening nerves and tension and probably couldn't delay the call any longer - he was probably watching the time all night wondering when it would be an acceptable time to raise the alarm.
    I'd also bet that he certainly wouldn't have expected the police to come calling so soon - he probably thought his call would be noted and that nothing much would be done until later in the day. The fact that he was apparently dressed for work when the Dickie's arrived shows that he was all business as usual and probably planning to head to the office to make a bit of a show of being the concerned husband for a while at least.

    And just to add to the gushing over Todd Fuller - he sure did a brilliant job carefully and reasonably laying out all the key evidence in order and in a way it would be easily understood even by folks who hadn't followed the case closely. No dramas or far reaching theories at all - just everything laid out and explained calmly and compassionately.
     
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    I agree, the fact that Allison's phone last connected at Fig Tree Pocket at 6.31am on the 20th, when it did not have a history of this connection, could indicate that GBC disposed of it on his "search" for Allison.
    It is so said that a beautiful women who wanted to be loved and to love in return should meet with such contempt and disregard for her life.
    RIP Allison.
     
  13. hootabelle

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    Agree. :cheers::ditto:
     
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    Mr Fuller said the child, aged 10, told police she could not remember what her mum was wearing when she last saw her.

    He said the girl then told police she thought she might have been wearing a white sloppy jacket and pyjama pants.

    He said the girl told police her mum was not dressed in work clothes.

    Mr Fuller asked whether it was inconceivable Ms Baden-Clay had put on the clothes in which she was found in when she got home from the hairdressers on April 19, 2012.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226980999956
     
  15. Maigret

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    Yes I've always thought that he thought they would say ' no no we don't consider them missing till it's been 24 hours [emoji41]
     
  16. drsleuth

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    Well, today was the day we had been waiting & hoping for.

    I think Mr Todd Fuller QC lived up to all our expectations & more. :takeabow:

    Most of what we have discussed over the past 2+ years was heard before the court today. He was thorough, without being "over the top". A great voice for Allison.

    But thanks to Allison she left her mark & certainly did not leave this earth without a mighty fight.

    I so hope, that somehow, Allison knows how many people are fighting for her.

    Justice will be done & GBC will have a long time to think about his actions & cry into his cereal each morning.

    I hope the jurors think like us.

    Today was a GOOD day & tomorrow will be the same :razz:
     
  17. Total

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    :floorlaugh::facepalm::facepalm:

    On that note...goodnight ....thank you to everyone, I feel today was Allison's day. May tomorrow and the rest of the week bring justice.
     
  18. winnie2

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    Newbie here but have been following since the beginning as I knew one of Alison's relatives and was with her on the day she was notified she was missing. Haven't commented to avoid saying something I shouldn't. While I've only been reading the threads here on what was said in court today, I can't help but think that Fuller missed a very damning piece of evidence. I can't recall what was said exactly, but if my recollection is correct, didn't one of the girls say that the toys were in the shed/carport? waiting to be picked up by someone/charity? Happy for someone to dismiss that as I don't have time to go and search the records.
     
  19. toe

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    Sorry Poss "hides under the desk" :blushing:
     
  20. Fluffykins

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    (rsbm)

    Indeed. He's been outfoxed. ;)
     
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