The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 8th July - Trial Day 16

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Leonie Mellor @leoniemellor · 5s
Todd Fuller QC begins final address to jury. @abcnews #badenclay
 
I don't agree. If he thought she was returning at any moment, why on earth blab on about the affair to the police? Not necessary. IMO he was trying to establish himself as forthright and honest - giving too many unnecessary personal details way too early in the piece.

Exactly!!!
 
Prime would you like to do David?
 
David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 39s

Some jurors looking at Michael Byrne, others looking down or away as he talks about media coverage #badenclay

Anemone are you there again today? Would love to hear more about the demeanour of the jury (if that is allowed).
 
David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 54s

Todd Fuller QC facing the jury, using his hands to make points as he begins #badenclay
 
I don't agree. If he thought she was returning at any moment, why on earth blab on about the affair to the police? Not necessary. IMO he was trying to establish himself as forthright and honest - giving too many unnecessary personal details way too early in the piece.
That is a really good point.
 
Leonie Mellor @leoniemellor · 10s
Byrne to jury: You are the only ones who have gone to look at Kholo Creek, the bridge, the house. @abcnews

Actually, no...many locals have gone to look at these places too in the 2 years since the tragedy occurred...and so have the dreaded "media", and published extensive photos and footage...so the public does have considerable information on which to form an opinion. I understand that in the trial, the jury must only consider what has been presented to them, but it does not do the defence any favours to imply that the media and the general public are malevolent and/or stupid and uninformed.
 
David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 37s

We've had a window into the lives of the Baden-Clays - Fuller #badenclay
 
Leonie Mellor @leoniemellor · 57s
Fuller: a trial is not a computer program putting data in. Because a trial is all about people. @abcnews #badenclay
 
David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
We've had a window into the lives of the Baden-Clays - Fuller #badenclay
 
Actually, no...many locals have gone to look at these places too in the 2 years since the tragedy occurred...and so have the dreaded "media", and published extensive photos and footage...so the public does have considerable information on which to form an opinion. I understand that in the trial, the jury must only consider what has been presented to them, but it does not do the defence any favours to imply that the media and the general public are malevolent and/or stupid and uninformed.

We know who is evil
 
David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Apply your every day experience - Fuller #badenclay
 
Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 42s

Todd Fuller is on his feet beginning his address to the jury. #badenclay



Fuller says it is not unknown for a person of previous good character to step outside the character. #badenclay

Fuller says we are programmed to have an expectation as to how someone should behave. #badenclay

Fuller says we have all seen someone under pressure react in an unexpected way. #badenclay

Fuller says the jurors are participating in a process to determine whether Gerard killed his wife. #badenclay

Fuller: And if he did it with an intention to kill her. #badenclay

Fuller says it's not about the mechanisms, it's about whether they are satisfied he did it. #badenclay

Fuller says we make assessments of people every day. #badenclay

Fuller says they apply their experiences, their knowledge of that person to make those decisions. #badenclay
 
Love Todd's starting words.
 
David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
You make assessments of people every day, you decide beyond reasonable doubt every day - Fuller #badenclay
 
David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Do you trust your doctor or follow the treatment they provide - Fuller #badenclay
 
Because he knew Allison was dead and the truth about the affair's would become common knowledge.

uh huh, he was playing the "i've got nothing to hide and I did nothing game" and decided that by him getting in first and confessing to the affair it would leave him looking clean as a whistle
 
Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 43s

Byrne is detailing the phone calls Gerard made to police, to family and friends. #badenclay

Byrne says this is not a person who is hiding, who violently murdered his wife the night before. #badenclay

Byrne says they should consider one piece of evidence - Gerard telling Toni to tell police the truth. #badenclay

Byrne says that is not someone who has just violently killed his wife. #badenclay

Byrne says there are two possibilities. One is Gerard murdered his wife and dumped her body. #badenclay

Byrne says second is Gerard was worried about his wife and expected her to be found at any moment. #badenclay

Byrne says it is telling that Gerard on the morning of April 20 told police about the affair. #badenclay

Byrne: If she was dead, and he knew she was dead, why would he care? Says Gerard had asked dad and sister to leave room. #badenclay

Byrne says the jury must deliver a unanimous verdict. #badenclay


Oh Gerred- you certainly are a saint. :sick: Bucket time has arrived
 
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