The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 9th July - Trial Day 17

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. Snails

    Snails New Member

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    I agree. I've be called up to do jury service about 6 times. I'm obviously on their "hit list" but I'm in a country town so there is a smaller pool of people. Unfortunately I couldn't do it due to business and family commitments but one day I will. It's a very important community service, and would be quite interesting, maybe boring at times, but still a worthwhile thing to do.
     


  2. tarjessi

    tarjessi Former Member

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    OBW's smile is that of arrogant ignorance masquerading as confidence...just like when she said it will all come out in the trial...as if somehow GBC was going to come out of this smelling like roses. That woman is seriously delusional...seems to be a family trait. The smug arrogance on GBC's face in that side photo of the scratches on his face...grrrr
     
  3. Crime and punishment

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    How long is a piece of string?
     
  4. tarjessi

    tarjessi Former Member

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    That's for desert, after the conviction and that filling meal of cooked goose :p
     
  5. they'll get you

    they'll get you On Time Out

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    What I'm saying is if he is acquitted with his narcissistic personality God only know what unbridled arrogance will spew forth. Someone who murders his wife during 'tough times', what would stop him murdering his children. Allison was family, children are family and a murderer is a murderer.
     
  6. Timmy

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    I agree... Huge responsibility to get it right. No one wants a murderer to walk free or an innocent person to go to jail.
     
  7. BreakingNews

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    Oh C & P, you make me laugh and laugh. I'll never be able to eat cooked goose ever again.
     
  8. BreakingNews

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    I know what it is like Timmy. I've been a juror on a high profile murder case years ago. At least now they have support for the jury afterwards. I went home exhausted, feeling so very alone and super-stressed, even though I believed that we made the right decision of guilty. Being on a jury is no picnic!
     
  9. Brightbird

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    I think if I was on the jury, I would leave the blood as inconclusive of anything. And that would mean it doesn't support or weaken the case against him. For me, the scratches and the plant matter are enough to remove reasonable doubt.
     
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    Yes. Murderers are evil and when they get away with it become cocky. Very scary man
     
  11. Liadan

    Liadan Well-Known Member

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    ahahahahahahahahahahahaha:happydance:
     
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    With all those leaves around the house and patio I think there would have been leaves in the car anyway.
     
  13. Tangled_Web

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    Judge Byrne talked through each set of evidence by category (e.g., mental health; financial issues). I felt the summary of the evidence relating to Allison's mental health really undermined the defence theory and showed that way too much prominence has been given to Allison's experience of depression - there is NO evidence that she was or ever has been suicidal (IMO). She has experienced depression (as so many have) and managed it - that evidence is strong.

    Dr TG diagnosed depression some years ago. Perhaps the more accurate diagnosis was a manipulating, controlling, cheating husband.
     
  14. Timmy

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    How did the evidence compare with the evidence in this trial? Was it mostly circumstantial ? That is an awful responsibility!
     
  15. BreakingNews

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    Allioops, do you know when the law in Queensland got changed? When I was a juror on a murder trial in the mid 1990's, the judge told us that we could only decide on guilty or not guilty of murder. We were told we couldn't deviate to manslaughter as it wasn't the original charge (We would not have gone for manslaughter even if we could). So I've lived all these years thinking that a jury couldn't change a murder charge to manslaughter.
    Appreciate your comments.
     
  16. whatif?

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    Hi Liadan, I could listen to him all day no problems. I personally didn't see any finger pointing going on and while I didn't mind listening to JB alot of the legal jargon went way over my head.
    It was nice to meet you Kiwijayne, Snails and Itsthevibe.
     
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    I am the same and that is in the privacy of my own office reading the retweets!!
     
  18. Mountain Misst

    Mountain Misst FA in Aus.

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    I agree with this - and it is also why he ditched the phone at that stage - he was going with the random stranger story at the start. IMO the suicide story came either from his family or his defence team or both.
     
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    I'm not sure that's a fair distinction. Yes we are all different. I know I can bump myself and it hurts like the proverbial, but I can also nick myself and not notice until I see blood. Sometimes the only way I realise I've cut myself and therefore to look for blood, is because of that horrid slicing feeling rather than actual pain. It can take a while for the pain to kick in if it's a clean cut. And superficial cuts can bleed a lot. Moo.
     
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