DAY 17 BADEN-CLAY TRIAL WEBSLEUTHS THREAD COLLECTION TWEETS
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Judge says pathologist found no injuries, only "probable" bruise to the chest. #badenclay
Pathologist found significant decomposition, consistent with death 11 days earlier - Justice Byrne
Byrne: the extent of decomposition was consistent with death having occurred about 11 days earlier, when the deceased last seen.
Justice Byrne is now taking jury through the testimony & evidence of certain witnesses, starting with pathologist Nathan Milne #badenclay
Crown says #badenclay had no other choice but to kill his wife Allison. #court #qld
http://ow.ly/yWcJF Jumper around Allison's head could have been moved there before or after death - Justice Byrne
Judge says pathologist found a chip on Allison's tooth that could not be aged. No sign of sexual assault. #badenclay
Judge says pathologist found no evidence of bruises, scratches from body being moved by water. #badenclay
A chipped tooth, but could not be aged - Justice Byrne
Judge says pathologist found higher than normal levels of sertraline but decomposition could cause that. #badenclay
The deceased did not die of natural causes - Justice Byrne
Pathologist found alcohol or Sertraline unlikely cause of death - Justice Byrne
Byrne: Dr Milne considers alcohol and/or sertraline toxicity is an unlikely cause of death, but because of decomposition.. 1/2
Byrne:... cannot altogether exclude such a possibility. 2/2
Byrne: Dr Milne's view that soon after death, body was deposited where it was found under bridge is supported by other evidence.
Byrne going through Dr Milne's evidence. He found she didn't die of natural causes.
Judge says pathologist expected significant injuries like fractures if Allison had fallen from the bridge. #badenclay
Judge says if she fell and landed in water, could have resulted in no injuries. #badenclay
Judge says pathologist found no evidence of drowning but it could not be ruled out. #badenclay
Judge is summarising the evidence of the insect expert. #badenclay
Entomologist could not say if the body was submerged in water - Justice Byrne
Byrne refers to evidence of engineer and insect expert.
Expert didn't find any diatoms in body, expected if there had been drowning - Justice Byrne
Judge is discussing the evidence of the diatom expert. Diatoms are organisms usually found if someone drowns. None found. #badenclay
Judge is discussing forensic expert Amanda Reeves. Reeves found indication of second DNA profile under nails. Not enough to test. #badenclay
Justice Byrne is now cautioning the jury about things said by Allison #badenclay when they're relayed through a witness.
Judge is discussing the evidence of a toxicologist who discussed Zoloft levels. #badenclay
Judge says expert said Zoloft was not particularly toxic. Couldn't find a single case of Zoloft causing death by itself. #badenclay
Judge says toxicologist found there was no ingestion of a large number of tablets in the hours before her death. #badenclay
Judge says toxicologist said seratonin syndrome should not be expected in someone taking a normal dose of sertraline. #badenclay
Judge says defence toxicologist accepted there had not been a recent ingestion of a large amount of sertraline. #badenclay
Judge says toxicologist gave opinion that sertraline did not contribute to Allison's death. #badenclay
Toxicologist said having using Zoloft since 2003 she would have a tolerance - Justice Byrne
Judge is now discussing evidence of Dr Gordon Guymer, botanist. #badenclay
Judge says Dr Guymer identified six species of plant entwined in Allison's hair and on body. #badenclay
Judge says Dr Guymer found one Cat's Claw Creeper leaf was pulled from the plant after being caught on something. #badenclay
Judge says Dr Guymer found most were fallen leaves. #badenclay
Judge says Dr Guymer found only two species at the creek, but all six at the house. #badenclay
Byrne turns to evidence of botanist Dr Gordon Guymer.
Dr Gordon Guymer, a botanist since 1980 - Justice Byrne
He identified four species entwined in her hair, two caught on her body - Justice Byrne
Justice Byrne is now recapping evidence from botanist Dr Gordon Guymer. @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay
Byrne says Dr Guymer found all six species in vicinity of the Brookfield home.
Justice Byrne moves onto next topic of evidence "affair." He is going through Toni McHugh's evidence.
Justice Byrne moves onto next topic of evidence "affair." He is going through Toni McHugh's evidence. @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay
Judge says Toni McHugh gave evidence that she began an affair with Gerard in August 2008. #badenclay
Judge says Toni said the affair was up and down all the time. #badenclay
Judge says Toni spoke of Gerard breaking things off after Allison found out. #badenclay
Judge says the affair was not over. He says Toni spoke of being contacted again by Gerard, things resumed. #badenclay
Judge says emails between Gerard and Toni were shown to the jury. #badenclay
Judge says the two were in regular contact in April, 2012. #badenclay
Judge says on April 19 they spoke on the phone. Gerard told Toni she and Allison would both be at real estate conference next day.#badenclay
Previous assurances had come to nothing. For the first time in an email he put a date on separation, July 1 - Justice Byrne
Byrne now relates McHugh's conversation with #badenclay on afternoon of 19th April 2012.
The next day, from the conference, Toni called him. Allison was missing
Judge says Toni said she "lost it". Gerard needed to tell Allison, it wasn't fair on either of them. #badenclay
Judge says Toni said she asked Gerard what he was going to do. Gerard spoke about selling the business. #badenclay
Judge says Toni called Gerard from the conference the next day to ask where Allison was. #badenclay
Judge says Toni was at police station next day. Gerard called, said "just answer yes or no, have you told them we are back together?
The next day he told her 'just answer yes or no', had she told police they were still together.
"I need you to know I don't know what's happened here, I need to you know I love you." #badenclay to Toni McHugh. @9NewsBrisbane
Court is adjourned until 2.30pm when Justice Byrne will continue. @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay
We've adjourned until 2.30pm. #badenclay
Experiencing technical difficulties on our live #badenclay blog today. Court has adjourned for lunch, will return at 2.30pm @brisbanetimes
Justice John Byrne continues his summing up to the #badenclay jury, he's now speaking about Allison's mental health.
Court resumed after lunch. Justice Byrne now talking through witness's evidence relating to Allison's mental health. @abcnews #badenclay
She had been in his care for six years and had not done anything to self harm - Justice Byrne
Judge says various witnesses gave evidence about Allison's mental health. #badenclay
Judge says Dr Tom George treated Allison for years. Said her symptoms of depression cleared up early on. #badenclay
Judge says Dr George recommended a marriage counsellor to Allison. #badenclay
Judge says according to Dr George, apart from the first two consultations, Allison was not depressed. #badenclay
Judge says Dr George had no concerns that Allison was suicidal. #badenclay
Judge says Dr George said Allison presented as extremely attached to her children. #badenclay
Judge is now referring to evidence from Dr Lumsden, who believed Allison's risk of suicide was absolutely zero. #badenclay
Judge is now referring to evidence from Dr Bourke, who prescribed Allison Zoloft, spoke to her about stress over affair. #badenclay
Judge says Dr Bourke's opinion was that she was not at risk of suicide. #badenclay
Judge is now talking about Ms Nutting, a psychologist who saw both Gerard and Allison. #badenclay
Judge says Ms Nutting spoke to Allison of panic attacks during second pregnancy. #badenclay
Judge says when Ms Nutting saw Allison at first, she was not experiencing depression symptoms. #badenclay
Judge says second appointment, after affair discovered, Allison was more fragile. Better at third appointment. #badencla
Judge is referring to evidence of defence witness Dr Schramm. Says he referred to reports, had not interviewed anyone. #badenclay
Judge says Dr Schramm said people with depression more likely to commit suicide and don't always leave a note. #badenclay
Justice Byrne is relaying to the jury the medical opinions of Allison's doctors, psychiatrists and counsellors. #badenclay
31 face to face conversations between Allison and psychiatrist Dr George from 2003 - Justice Byrne
There is medical and psychological evidence about the deceased's mental state - Justice Byrne
Judge says there is no evidence at all of Allison ever experiencing any adverse reactions to Zoloft. #badenclay
Judge is now referring to evidence from relationship counsellor Carmel Ritchie. #badenclay
Judge says Allison told Ms Ritchie she was a conflict avoider and her husband criticised her parenting skills. #badenclay
Judge says Ms Ritchie spoke to accused alone initially. He told her he wanted to wipe the past clean. #badenclay
Justice Byrne - there's no indication of Allison Baden-Clay ever indicating she suffered adverse impacts of Zoloft #badenclay
Jury is now hearing a recap of evidence given by Carmel Ritchie from Relationships Australia.
Judge says Ms Ritchie recommended 15 minute sessions every second night so Allison could talk. #badenclay
Judge says Gerard was very resistant to this initially. #badenclay
31 face to face conversations between Allison and psychiatrist Dr George from 2003 - Justice Byrne
Her condition was resolved and remained so for the vast majority of her time in his care - Justice Byrne
Dr George thought beyond the first two consultations she was never depressed, suicide was never an issue
She was extremely attached to her children, Dr George said - Justice Byrne
She had been in his care for six years and had not done anything to self harm - Justice Byrne
A psychologist, Dr Lumsden, assessed her risk of suicide as being absolutely zero - Justice Byrne
Allison saw a GP, concerned about her marriage and finances - Justice Byrne
A juror's chair has broken during Justice Byrne's summing up. #badenclay
Justice John Byrne refers to Gerard as 'the accused' and Allison as 'the deceased' throughout summing up
Justice Byrne is going through the evidence of defence witness Dr Mark Schramm, psychologist
No evidence Allison ever had adverse effects from Zoloft - Justice Byrne
Slight pause. One of the juror's chairs just broke. #badenclay
Relationships Australia counsellor Carmel Ritchie saw Allison - Justice Byrne
Ms Ritchie was left with the impression depression was well managed - Justice Byrne
Ms Ritchie had a meeting with Gerard and Allison April 16 - Justice Byrne
A juror's chair has just broken mid summing up
Judge says Gerard eventually agreed. Allison was brought back into the room. #badenclay
Judge says Allison told Gerard she was "over the moon" he had spent time with the counsellor. #badenclay
The judge is now talking about Allison's journal. #badenclay
Loud bang rang out through court. New chair being brought over. Proceedings paused
The juror is in a new seat, judge resumes
Gerard's role was simply to listen to his wife for 15 minutes every second day - Justice Byrne
Justice Byrne going through Allison's questions about the affair
Now into Thursday April 19
Allison had a four hour training session that day, seemed very positive to the woman she met with.
Justice Byrne now discussing details of Thursday 19th April, 2012, and the following day, when Allison was reported missing. #badenclay
Gerard's was put on charge 1.48am April 20. In the morning, he told his children he cut himself shaving.
Judge says on April 19, Allison went to a four hour training course. The trainer thought Allison was very positive. #badenclay
Judge says Allison then went to the hairdressers. Gerard spoke to Toni McHugh on the phone around 5pm. #badenclay
Judge says Allison spoke to Olivia on the phone at 8.30pm. She was speaking quietly, signs that the children were going to sleep. #badenclay
Judge says Gerard's phone was plugged into charge at 1.48am, taken off about 6am. #badenclay
The judge is going through the events of the morning of April 20. #badenclay
Judge is referring to Gerard explaining to police that he'd cut himself shaving. #badenclay
Judge says Gerard was asked by police about his wife's state of mind. "Pretty good," he said. #badenclay
Judge says Gerard explained the 15 minute sessions recommended by the counsellor to police. #badenclay
Judge says Gerard told police "we had one last night", said there were some difficult things they'd talked about. #badenclay
Gerard #badenclay told police "things are pretty tight" financially, Justice Byrne says.
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Justice Byrne is going through events as police arrive at Brookfield that morning
The jury is hearing summing up of some of Gerard's conversations with police April 20
Judge says Gerard told police he honestly didn't know whether Allison had come to bed the night before. He's a very heavy sleeper.#badenclay
Judge says Gerard was asked how his wife had been the last week or so. "Pretty good,'' he'd said. #badenclay
Any signs Allison had been overly depressed? Gerard #badenclay tells police 'no', Justice Byrne says.
Judge says Gerard told police his wife had had a list of questions for him she'd asked the previous night. (April 19). #badenclay
Judge says Gerard told police his financial situation was "pretty dire". #badenclay
Judge is now discussing the interview Gerard did with police on April 21. #badenclay
Justice Byrne says #badenclay told police he'd not bought new razor blades for six months.
Judge is giving the jury a summary of Gerard Baden-Clay's discussions with police the morning Allison disappeared @7NewsBrisbane #badenclay
Jurors are sitting back, looking at screens showing Justice Byrne's remarks as he speaks, very little note taking.
Gerard looking towards the judge as he sums up.
Judge says Gerard told police Allison must have come to bed because her side of the doona was folded back. #badenclay
Judge says when asked if Allison was suicidal, Gerard said no. #badenclay
Judge says Gerard went to see Dr Candice Beaven about the scratches. Told her he'd cut himself shaving. #badenclay
Judge says Gerard told her it was one motion, then said it must have been a couple. He was rushed. #badenclay
Judge says Gerard then went to see Dr Renu Kumar about his injuries. Told her cuts on face from an old razor. A "rush job". #badenclay
Justice John Byrne is going through forensic investigations. No blood in house.
Judge is now discussing forensic examination of the house. #badenclay
Judge says no indication of blood in house or carport area. No indication of cleanup. #badenclay
Judge says Gerard's razor was tested for blood. None found. But says blood can be washed away by water. #badenclay
Judge says flow rivulets of blood found in back of the car. #badenclay
Judge is now referring to evidence from experts who interpreted Gerard's injuries. #badenclay
Blood was found in the Captiva - Justice Byrne
Justice Byrne comes to expert evidence about Gerard's facial injuries.
Judge says Dr Margaret Stark said marks on Gerard's face were typical of fingernail scratches. #badenclay
