The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay - Trial Day 1 - 10th June, 2014-Week 1

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. Curiousasacat

    Curiousasacat New Member

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    Lol.
    Did we not all agree no more mention of the kopper logs. :tantrum: :tantrum:
     


  2. Thinking

    Thinking New Member

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    I do agree with this logic Radster, but weren't the cars tested and no evidence found on wheels of dirt, foliage etc? There was no bitumen in the side parking area at that time. A good morning wash job I guess?
     
  3. Kimster

    Kimster Former Member

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    My earliest recollection was when I saw the mannequin. I'd never seen LE do something like that before.
     
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    toe New Member

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    Or

    He was fortunate enough to have a driver, who dropped him and Allison's body at the bridge, whilst the driver drove a few km's along the road and returned to collect him.
     
  5. DrWatson

    DrWatson Verified Thoracic and Vascular Surgeon

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    Or - and this was discussed at great length WAY back in one of the earlier threads - he simply stopped the car on the bridge with the road all clear, got out, went around the back, opened the tailgate, slid Allison out, (by dragging her, perhaps causing her jumper to ride up over her head), then just rolling her under the bridge railings. There's plenty of room under the bottom railing to roll a body.

    Then slam the tailgate shut, get back in the car and shut the door (possibly the "couple of thuds" heard by locals) and drive off, doing a U-turn further up the road. That whole thing could have been done in 30 seconds or so, and any approaching vehicles would be seen and heard in plenty of time at night.

    The body drops into the mud at about the high tide level, maybe bounces slightly with one end of it coming to rest under the bridge, and the rest poking out from under (which is where she was found).

    And while the middle of the bridge may be about 14m high, I think where Allison was found would be less - may 8-10m. And if the tide was high, that mud would have been soft.

    The subsequent heavy rain coincided with a LOW tide, and the hydrologist's report mentions that the highest level of the surge due to the rain didn't reach the level of the body - but the NORMAL high tide level DID. That's why the decomposition by water was so pronounced.

    We have yet to hear about the tip of the rubber glove finger that fell out of the jumper sleeve - and whether or not this was from one of the Scene Of Crime people.

    In fact, there is a LOT we have yet to hear. This was only day 1 - in a 4-week trial. We'll see just how close - or way off - our theories have been.
     
  6. Crime and punishment

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    Hi everyone!
    Totally agree Dr! This is the most likely scenario IMO. Thanks all for the posts everyone! Justice is coming!
     
  7. wewillgetyou

    wewillgetyou Active Member

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    Kimster perhaps it's an Australian thing to have a mannequin. It's done quite often ( especially for major crimes ) and is used to help prod peoples minds incase they saw something but didn't realise.
     
  8. Amee

    Amee Active Member

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    Gerard's father Nigel had dropped around that morning of April 19 to collect signs for open homes and auctions that weekend.
    He could not even remember if he saw his daughter-in-law that morning.

    She had a 4pm hairdresser appointment and was trying to organise to catch-up with a friend after a real estate conference in Brisbane the next day.
    When the latter fell through, she was in contact with another friend to return a dress she had borrowed.

    Nigel collected the kids from school and took them to Kenmore for a swim.

    The eldest got up about 10 minutes later to get a drink and saw her mother watching television.
    She said her dad was wearing his daggy shorts and clothes for bed.

    http://www.qt.com.au/news/gerard-baden-clays-wife-lover-apart/2285637/
     
  9. LadyBird1

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    Ah Ha! I did wonder who reported that the child "saw her mother watching television"
    Thanks, just got the answer.
    Plus the next bit of backup.....The hint that dad had all the appearances of "normal" that night.
    The more backup the better .....
     
  10. marlywings

    marlywings Former Member

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    One thing puzzling me a bit yesterday, I am expecting to hear more on this.

    Mr Fuller said there was plankton diatoms in Ms Baden-Clay’s lungs, which are found in water.

    Did she drown?
     
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