Identified! The Doe Network, Part 4: Who is Princess Blue? - Julie Gwenn Davis

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  1. rats

    rats Justice for Sheridan Jane Doe.

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    Not really sure where to post this as I can’t really find a specific discussion thread for PB. But has anyone submitted her to the DNA Doe Project? Or suggested it to the investigators?
     


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    booghawk Well-Known Member

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    They both have DNA on file though?

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  3. Reannan

    Reannan Well-Known Member

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    Any updates on this case??? It is one of the cases I really would like to see resolved, and this looks promising.
     
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    daisy6441 Well-Known Member

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    I just chased the tail of this discussion through 4 threads. Was it ever determined if she had any clothing on the body? There were a whole lot of girls found naked with only jewelry along the sides of highways in the 1980's. It is strange to me that they would leave jewelry on the body and take the clothing/personal effects.
     
  5. AuntGiGiU

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    I was just wondering the same thing?
    I'm new to this so I don't really know where to start but I definitely want to help.
     
  6. Anthem

    Anthem New Member

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    Princess Blue is thought to be around 15-25 some sources capping her age more around 19 so Chandler may have been overlooked because of her age, she would have been about 29 at the time of her disappearance putting her a bit older than Princess Blues assumed age but other than that everything seems sound.
    Edit: I forgot to add that Princess Blue was originally ID'ed as Hispanic but further analysis showed that she most likely had a black parent or grandparent making her mixed, while Chandlers NAMUS file shows her as white.
     
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    Anthem New Member

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    Owch I just noticed my typo sorry

    Here's some of her information:

    Missing Person / NamUs #MP27940 Shelia Cooks, Female, Black / African American
    Status: Missing
    Date of Last Contact: May 16, 1979
    Missing From: Austin, Texas
    Missing Age: 18 Years
    Current Age: 58 Years

    Case Information


    Demographics
    Missing Age: 18 Years
    Current Age: 58 Years
    First Name: Sheila
    Last Name: Cooks
    Sex: Female
    Height: 5' 3" (63 Inches)
    Weight: 95 lbs
    Race / Ethnicity: Black / African American

    Circumstances
    Date of Last Contact: May 16, 1979
    NamUs Case Created: March 6, 2015
    Last Known Location
    Location: Austin, Texas
    County: Travis County

    Circumstances of Disappearance: Shelia Cooks was last seen on May 16, 1979
    Physical Description
    Hair Color: Black
    Head Hair Description--
    Body Hair Description--
    Facial Hair Description--
    Left Eye Color: Brown
    Right Eye Color: Brown
    Eye Description--
    Distinctive Physical Features
    No Known Information



    Clothing and Accessories
    No Information Entered
    Additional Case Info

    Transportation
    No Information Entered
    Images & Documents

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    And here's most of the interview with her sister Fredia Butler:

    "My sister told me she needed a ride," Butler said.

    Sheila, who was 18 at the time, had an appointment with her probation officer. The building still stands on the corner of Airport and 381/2 Street in East Austin.

    She typically walked to the meetings with her older brothers. That day, her only option was to set off by herself. At the time, her favorite meal was on the stove. Fredia says her mother tried to get Sheila to eat before she left the house.

    "Sheila said, 'no, I can't wait to get back here so I can eat momma. I'm going to eat those beans when I get back.' She never came. She never came," said Butler.

    Eight hours later Fredia's mother was on her doorstep.

    "She said 'Fredia, Sheila is not at home.' Immediately it was like I was hit by thunder. We jumped up. We knew that was not normal," she said. "We knew something happened, so we walked the way she would have walked, scan that area and start looking for Sheila on foot. I'll never forget that."

    Sheila left her mother's home located at 1193 1/2 San Bernard. Her destination was two-and-a-half miles away at 1825 East 38 1/2 Street.

    After re-tracing those steps, the family called police. Neighbors and church groups also searched.

    Austin police investigated and learned that Sheila made her appointment. What happened after she left is a mystery.

    "Something happened to Sheila. Something happened to her. Someone hurt her," said Butler.

    Sheila was born in 1960, the fourth of ten children.

    "She loved to dance, she really danced," said Butler.

    She was fairly petite, standing 5'3" tall, but Fredia says her sister did not mess around. She was straight forward and tough.

    "I'm thinking it could've been someone she knew, 'cause she wasn't an easy person. You just couldn't pick her up," said Butler.

    So many years have gone by. Sheila's mother and father have since passed away. Fredia, the oldest sibling, is more determined than ever to find out what happened on that hot summer day in 1979.

    "All we want is closure. We want a memorial. To bury our sister," she said. "I know she's out there. Somebody seen something, and I don't care how old they are. I want justice for this girl."


    Her NAMUS profile spells her name as Shelia Cooks but almost everywhere else I can find her its spell Sheila. She matches the age and height, the picture is grainy but it doesn't look too off.
     
  10. Anthem

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    Turns out my math is a little questionable but she's still relatively close to the right age range, and in the news story her sister says that she was fairly small for her age. Also here's a side by side of their pictures:
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    I totally see the similarity. Jaw shape, nose shape, eyebrows...all seem to match up.
     
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    Just came across this case and it's fascinating. Here's some things that I've wondered with Sheila possibly being Princess Blue.
    What doesn't make sense:
    -She went missing in 79 and Princess Blue was discovered in 90, with an estimate that the skeletal remains are 1-5 years old. How reliable is that estimate? It would be stretching the probability of it being her a good 5-6 years.
    What makes sense:
    -Height (5'3") and weight (95 lbs, slight build).
    -Mixed race w/ a black parent or grandparent. Not sure of the race of her parents, but it seems like this checks out.
    -Facial structure matches up.
    Some extra questions:
    -She comes from a family with 10 siblings, so I'm assuming money was tight, even with her working. I'm wondering the price of the jewelry found on the body.
    Was the pearl bracelet authentic? Did she have friends or siblings in Austin who would give her a '75 ring, as she would be 14 at the time?

    I'm doubtful that LE could do DNA comparison. I would love to know if they have Princess Blue's DNA on file, as they could possibly use newer technology to find generational matches (i.e. Golden State Killer).
     
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    Could we not contact the females or search them somehow from this class to see who is accounted for and who is not? I would also like to know what size is the class ring and what size was it initially? Is it possible that the ring belongs to a boyfriend or family member? I have my dad’s. So this I would be curious about.
     
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    I was thinking that its possible she didn't die immediately, giving her time between her disappearance and death for picking up the ring or other things happening. Possibly trying to take strain off her family or for some other reason she ran off to somewhere near Houston, picked up the ring and possibly lived around there for a while then died, but thats entirely theoretical.
     
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    From what I've read the ring size when it was found was a 9.5 and was resized twice. I can't find what the original ring size was though.
     
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    I noticed something while following another thread on the Alcala unidentified. There is a young woman with a plaid hat, who was wearing unusual eye makeup. Faerieskye edited out the eyeliner, and posted the cleaner image, which I think looks like PB.

    Alcala was born in Texas. He has been incarcerated since 1980, but perhaps PB remains are older than 1985? Would explain a 1975 class ring....

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  17. Justsayn

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    But I wonder if it was sized larger or smaller. Larger maybe a family member?
     
  18. Earthbound Misfit I

    Earthbound Misfit I Justice for Kimberly Shawn Cheatham

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    According to her stats the ring was upsized (made larger) two times.
     
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    Earthbound Misfit I Justice for Kimberly Shawn Cheatham

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    I need to make a correction about the REL class ring, I've looked through the information here and the only thing I found was that it had been resized twice. It doesn't say resized up or down,
     
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    Earthbound Misfit I Justice for Kimberly Shawn Cheatham

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