The Fall Of Kabul To The Taliban

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  1. worldwatcher

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    Taliban face financial crisis without access to foreign reserves
    Analysis: As the US freezes Afghan reserves and Germany halts aid, the new rulers may find they are far short of what is required to govern

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    Peter Beaumont
    Wed 18 Aug 2021 16.29 BST


    Afghanistan’s new Taliban rulers are likely to face a rapidly developing financial crisis, with foreign currency reserves largely unreachable and western aid donors – who fund the country’s institutions by about 75% – already cutting off or threatening to cut payments.

    Taliban face financial crisis without access to foreign reserves
     


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    White House signs joint statement asking the Taliban to protect women and girls | Daily Mail Online


    White House signs joint statement with 19 other nations asking the Taliban to protect women and girls and vowing to 'monitor closely'
    • The statement says the nations are 'deeply worried about Afghan women and girls'
    • Comes amid fears Taliban will again deny women a role in the public sphere, girls were denied schooling, and Sharia law was imposed
    • Governments say they will 'monitor closely how any future government ensures rights and freedoms' of Afghan women and girls
    • Taliban spokesman said Tuesday that 'We are guaranteeing all their rights within the limits of Islam'
    • Statement signed by 20 nations plus the European Union
     
  3. MajorHoople

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    Afghanistan Veteran Speaks Out About The Fall Of Kabul, Taliban Taking Power

    Aug 16, 2021 - ABC News

     
  4. Rosegold68

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    how come the tiny Island of Great Britain has taken the most refugees so far?
    also
    USA pledge 30,000
    Britain pledge 20,000
     
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    rbbm.
    Taliban blow up statue of opponent in Afghanistan; residents fear more violence
    ''Meanwhile, the United Arab Emirates acknowledged that Ghani and his family were in the Gulf country in a terse, one-sentence statement.''

    “The UAE has welcomed President Ashraf Ghani and his family into the country on humanitarian grounds,” it said.

    Ghani, in theory, remains the president of Afghanistan, though many in the country blame him for the collapse of the country's security forces. The U.S. Embassy in Abu Dhabi did not respond to questions about Ghani's presence.

    Speaking late Wednesday in a video posted to Facebook, Ghani defended abandoning Kabul as the Taliban advanced, describing it as the only way to prevent bloodshed. He denied rumors that he left with millions of dollars.

    I was forced to leave Afghanistan with one set of traditional clothes, a vest and the sandals I was wearing,” Ghani said. He also said he supported the talks Abdullah and Karzai now conducted with the Taliban.

    In a sign of the monetary difficulties any future Afghan government will face, the head of Afghanistan's Central Bank said the country's supply of physical U.S. dollars is “close to zero.” Afghanistan has some $9 billion in reserves, Ajmal Ahmady tweeted, but most is held outside the country, with some $7 billion held in U.S. Federal Reserve bonds, assets and gold.

    Ahmady said the country did not receive a planned cash shipment amid the Taliban offensive.

    “The next shipment never arrived,” he wrote. “Seems like our partners had good intelligence as to what was going to happen''

    ''The “Taliban won militarily - but now have to govern,” he wrote. “It is not easy.”
     
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    Gunfire Is Constant: Clarissa Ward Reports As Taliban Take Control In Kabul

    Aug 18, 2021 - CNN

     
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    Afghanistan: Three Dead As Taliban Open Fire On Protesters

    Aug 18, 2021 - Channel 4 News

     
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    That's a question someone needs to ask Mr. Boris Johnson.
     
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    Fwiw..
    Up thread a poster mentioned it was time to re watch the movie, Argo- more films suggested to further an understanding of the Afghanistan war.
    The best films about the war in Afghanistan
    Aug 11 2021
    Film Trailers included at link.
    ''As US forces pull out from the nation’s longest running war, a look at some of the most thought-provoking films dealing with the Afghan conflict.''
     
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    where men win glory, the odyssey of Pat Tillman is a great read.

    Also,

    Veteran mementos housed within the USO Pat Tillman Center at an airfield in Afghanistan, including one of Tillman's framed NFL jerseys, are now back home.

    Pat Tillman jersey returned from Afghanistan after withdrawal | 12news.com
     
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    Taliban Takes Responsibility For Killing Of Afghan Comic | Afghanistan News

    Published Jul 30, 2021 - WION News




    Edited to note: The Taliban steadfastly denied killing the man until the videos went viral and they could no longer deny the accusations.
     
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    Routledge said that as the Taliban rolled in to Kabul Sunday evening, his Afghan tour guide led him across town from his hotel to a UN safe house.

    Routledge previously told The Times of London that the British embassy in Kabul wasn't answering his calls, and told Input magazine that he tried to visit multiple embassies, but they were all closed. He told Insider the Canadian embassy eventually helped him the most.

    He said there were a number of foreign nationals at the safe house, and they were soon told to try and make it to Kabul airport - the only way out of the city.

    "They [the Taliban] promised us safe transport if we gave up the weapons, so we did and they escorted us out."

    Routledge said the mood upon leaving the safe house was bizarre.

    "It was weird, some people were taking selfies with them [Taliban fighters], shaking their hand and smiling," he said.

    While Routledge made it out, hundreds of Afghans - including whose who worked with the US and UK - remain trapped. Hundreds rushed Kabul airport on Sunday, with video showing some latching onto a moving US Air Force plane. Other footage showed people who had clung to a plane falling from the sky moments later.

    A British student who got a last-gasp flight out of Kabul described how he made it out of Afghanistan as the Taliban closed in
     
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    Killing of Afghan comic by Taliban raises fears of reprisals

    "The killing of an Afghan comic by Taliban militants this week has raised fears of revenge killings, as the Taliban take control of the country.

    Nazar Mohammad, better known as Khasha Zwan, was a popular comedian in the country’s south.

    A video of two men slapping and abusing him spread widely on social media, and he was later shot multiple times.

    Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid acknowledged that the two men attacking him in the video were Taliban, and that they would go on trial.

    But the murder has raised fears about further reprisals, as the US and its allies pull their final personnel out of the country and the Afghan government and security forces crumbling before the Taliban advance."
     
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    After Kabul’s fall, Pen Farthing says he’s not leaving until his team and their animals are safely out of Afghanistan

    "The Taliban’s takeover of Kabul means that Nowzad – the non-profit that has spent nearly 15 years reuniting stray dogs with the soldiers who rescued them – no longer has a future in Afghanistan. That’s according to the organization’s founder, Pen Farthing, who now has a new mission: finding safe homes for his staff and close to 200 animals in their care.

    Farthing was the 2014 CNN Hero of the Year. In 2006, he served in Afghanistan as a Royal Marine Commando. Speaking with CNN on August 12 ahead of the Taliban’s advance on Kabul, he questioned the sacrifice he and others made given the West’s rapid withdrawal.

    “We know obviously the Taliban of old never allowed women to go to school, not be educated, not to go to work, not to leave the home,” he said.

    Now, Farthing is fighting to get all 25 of Nowzad’s staffers and their immediate families out of Afghanistan and onto a repatriation flight to the UK. He took to Facebook Live to make the case, pointing out that the UK is dealing with a shortage of veterinarians and support staff, and his team has animal rescue experience. He called on his followers to reach out to British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and their local lawmakers to press them to help Nowzad’s team."
     
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    Taliban "Shooting Protesters" As Thousands Try To Flee Afghanistan

    Aug 18, 2021 - BBC News

     
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    That’s interesting to hear. Do you have any idea why that is? TIA
     
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    Yikes! Thank you for sharing that, GatorFL.

    If anyone in Afghanistan dares to speak against the Taliban they can count on being maimed and mutilated. If I was there, I would be pretending to be Taliban-friendly until I could get the heck out.

    I would say that this is even more true for women and children than for men. No woman who is free to choose how she is treated would be fine with being under constant threat of being brutally beaten, forced to beat other women and children, forced to "marry" as a child, (in quotes because it is really Taliban-sanctioned rape and servitude, MOO), and treated only slightly better than a dog. And dogs are treated pretty bad.

    Just like politicians who claim that the vast majority of Americans agree with the stupid things they do, the Taliban is pushing their false narrative. I do believe that there are plenty of men who enjoy that evil, barbaric (MOO) lifestyle.

    I believe that the women are pretending, in order to survive. MOO
     
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    Taliban take over Afghanistan: What we know and what's next
    ''WHY DID THE AFGHAN SECURITY FORCES COLLAPSE?
    The short answer? Corruption.

    The U.S. and its NATO allies spent billions of dollars over two decades to train and equip Afghan security forces. But the Western-backed government was rife with corruption. Commanders exaggerated the number of soldiers to siphon off resources, and troops in the field often lacked ammunition, supplies or even food.

    Their morale further eroded when it became clear the U.S. was on its way out. As the Taliban rapidly advanced in recent days entire units surrendered after brief battles, and Kabul and some nearby provinces fell without a fight.''

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    The Taliban special forces: Heavily armed fighters with American equipment | Daily Mail Online

    I apologize for not copy and pasting. The DM website will not allow me.
    IMO, You can't change 400 years of culture. No matter how much money a military action you throw at it. Sadly, the people who want change are in the minority. I guess that leaves them with the only choice of leaving and living the life the want.
     
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